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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kisumu West, FORD-K",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Olago Aluoch",
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        "legal_name": "John Olago Aluoch",
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    "content": "being interfered with and eroded by the Treasury on behalf of the Executive. The Executive is in effect telling the Judiciary: “You will operate as and when we want you to.” Is that what we want as Parliament? You are being asked to state the obvious for those who may not know, that it is so obvious. The process of budget-making solely belongs to this House. If there is need for this country to apply austerity measures, be it through Parliament, the Executive or the Judiciary, those measures must come back to this House for us to deliberate them, through the Budget and Appropriations Committee, and then see what is best for our country. We cannot allow the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury, whether he is acting or is substantive, on his own motion, to interfere with this process. In my humble view, even if the Acting Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury has appeared before the Budget and Appropriations Committee, he should be brought before the House so that action can be taken against him. This sort of indolence should not be allowed to happen in our country. I have the privilege of serving this House in the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs. We would not have reached this space where we have to discuss these issues before the House if there was proper consultation between the Judiciary and the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs as the Committee that oversees the Judiciary in this House. But because when the Judiciary is under pressure, they think that the best way they can sort out their problems is without consulting the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, we end up with the kind of messy situation we are in. It is very messy because the court has issued orders in favour of the court. The Judiciary is sitting on an issue where they are parties, which is not right. We can avoid that mess by simply consulting. Lack of consultation is what has brought us where we are. I join Hon. Kaluma and other Members of this House in asking you to issue strict instructions which will not determine the outcome of constitutional Petition No.425, which has now brought all this fear. Nobody out of this House should imagine that what we are deliberating on this evening touches on whether Petition 425 of this year will succeed or not. We are looking at our responsibility as Parliament. We do not care how that Petition ends. That is for the Judiciary."
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