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"speaker_name": "Kwanza, FORD-K",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. This Bill, as the Seconder has mentioned, is overdue. We have had many problems in this country. One of them is access to information through illegal means. Why I have sat here all through is because I have been a victim of this matter. I do not know what happened, but somebody accessed my phone and called out: “Are you Mr. Ferdinand Kevin Wanyonyi? I replied, “Yes, I am.” He told me he has been looking for me and he was holding some information. He went on and on, I do not want to disclose the rest of the conversation, but I wondered how he got my full name. I do not know if he got it through somebody from Safaricom or from where I used to work. I have no idea. That is what happened. I am sure some Members have been victims of such things. Somebody gets your information illegally and presents it so clearly that you will have no reason to suspect them. I do not know how true it is when they say it is the fellows at the Kamiti Maximum Prison. I do not have a relative or a friend in Kamiti Maximum Prison, but that is what is happening. It is the reality. We must guard against it. The other day, I am sure you, Hon. Speaker and most Members participated in the registration of the Huduma Namba. People came to my House when I was there with my family members and I voluntarily gave my data to the registration agents. To date, I do not know of anyone who has been given that number. I am asking the Government to tell us what happened with that exercise. We spent money on that exercise. If we establish in this House, by show of hands, how many Members gave their data for Huduma Namba registration, we will find that all Members registered. None of us has been given the number. I do not know what happened. Those are some of the things the Government has wasted money on. We thought this would be of use to us. I do not know what happened. There are many problems. It is good this Bill has come to the House and it will enable us to be a step ahead in what happens in the Third World. The fact that we have the Ministry of Information, Communications and Telecommunication, we will form a commission to be in charge of this. That is something that we all have to support. It may make us to be above others in the Third World. I do not know if it has happened in other regions; I really do not want to mention that. This is something that needs to be done. We should have a commission in charge of it. At the same time, let us set stiff penalties for whoever accesses information illegally. Setting up a commission will not be enough. Let us have known penalties. If you access information illegally from somebody, you should be punished by law. That will deter people who get information illegally. That should be known to the public. We should not pass this Bill and leave it at that. The public should know that accessing information illegally, for example, from you, Hon Speaker, is unlawful. I am not complaining, but we have youth out there – they are not my age and your age – who do nothing but play around with figures and give you any information. Let it be known that it is punishable to get information from somebody illegally. The other thing that is a bit sensitive is transfer of data to another country. That is what the Chairman of this Committee talked about. When you go to a neighbouring country, you should get information legally. If, for example, I am in a university in the USA and there is some information that is needed, it should be done through the legal means that you and I know. It should not be done via somebody calling you to give them information. I have had cases, particularly on land in this county, which is an emotive issue. You find that somebody has all details about your land in terms of boundaries and acreage. If your father or grandfather died, they also have that information. Therefore, they might claim that the land is theirs and the existing information will be erased in the land’s office. So, when you go there, you will be blank The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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