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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, from the outset, I support the Report by the Special Committee because of two reasons: The first one is that the process of impeachment is the highest process that can be entered into by any organ, be it a county assembly or the Senate. Impeachment is the penultimate decision that must be made. That process has some requirements. There must be fair hearing and one must be heard in public. I have checked through these records in the Report that has been presented. He was not given a public hearing. Therefore, you cannot make a conclusion of impeachment without having undertaken that process. Therefore, it was a flawed process right from the word go. They may have had some very interesting allegations, but they only remained to be allegations until such a time where a clear process will be done, witnesses adduced, a decision arrived at, and the verdict read out for him on what happened. That is point number one. Point number two, what is the Senate supposed to do? We cannot legitimize an improper process. That is why I support the Committee in the process they went through and proved that these are mere allegations. Allegations cannot form a basis for an impeachment at the Senate level. Therefore, we better steer clear out of this suggestion that we have a case to impeach. We have no case to impeach, because even the process, in itself, is flawed. Point number three, I will advise Gov. Samboja that where there is smoke, there is fire. I have looked at the allegations that have been brought forward, particularly the County Integrated Development Plan (CDIP), the annual budget and the budgeting process. It takes two to tango and, therefore, he should involve and create a good rapport with the County Assembly. That way, these processes will be done in a legal manner. At the end of the day, the processes will be justified. Mr. Temporary, Speaker, Sir, finally, because I have only five minutes, while some of these elements being raised here are too premature at this stage, they will find their way to the Auditor-General’s report, one way or the other. Therefore, we shall have an opportunity to interrogate this report at an appropriate time. They will not form a basis for impeachment, but they may form a basis of a report on which he will also have an opportunity to answer when he will be given the exit report. If he does not answer, he will appear before the County Public Accounts and Investment Committee (CPAIC). Indeed, he has an opportunity to answer before the County Assembly Report, if he needs to do so, through his County Executive Committee (CEC) Member for Finance."
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