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    "id": 943767,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/943767/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Prof.) Kamar",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 33,
        "legal_name": "Margaret Jepkoech Kamar",
        "slug": "margaret-kamar"
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    "content": "executive in the counties believe that there is no need to account to anybody? How can we put them on track so that accountability is part of our life? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the laws that we have are supposed to put us on track. We do not need any other law to put us on track. I thank the Committee because they are very clear on matters they think that concerned officers should be prosecuted on. They have also stated that imprest must be paid by the concerned officers whether they are in office or not. The Report is about audit reports for FY 2014/2015 and it is possible that some officers concerned may have left because of the changes as a result of 2017 General Elections. Some governors who were retained could have also changed their officers. Therefore, some of the officers who may have contravened the law may be out but they are in Kenya. Since they are Kenyans, they must be prosecuted as per the recommendations of the Committee. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I worry about what happens after our Committee has made these recommendations. What happens when a recommendation has been made that the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) and the Ethic and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) move in to prosecute the officers responsible for this mess? Do those agencies actually implement the recommendations of our report or we still have a set back on the implementation? Unless we set the standards of spending, accountability and transparency at the county level, we might come back next year to look at the financial report on the operations of the 2015/2016 and 2016/2017 financial years in vain. We keep pilling reports yet we do nothing about them. We must start thinking about what to do. I admire a strong recommendation that was made by the Committee although I am not sure whether they have identified ways of getting solutions. The Committee has made recommendation to capacity build the MCAs. The MCAs should be the first point of alerting the country that there is a problem. According to the recommendation by the Committee, they have rightfully said that the MCAs should have the capacity to interrogate the reports that come from the Controller of Budget. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I thank the CPAIC for moving a step forward to demand that the Controller of Budget gives reports to Senators. We receive the same report that our MCAs have but we know that they do not have the capacity to deal with it and monitor. The CPAIC has identified that problem but how are we going to solve the matter? Truthfully, the MCAs are supposed to interrogate the reports of the Controller of Budget because they are supposed to be doing first line oversight before we read the reports from the Office of the Auditor-General. The MCAs should have a say on whether the projects are on-going or they have been delayed due to non-payment. The MCAs have been unable to interrogate the reports of the Controller of Budget. I wonder whether they read the reports from the Office of the Controller of Budget. Participating in the budget cycle is the responsibility of the county assemblies. The county assembly is supposed to move with the budget process right from the proposals from the Executive to the public participation process where they are part of those who give inputs as to what is going to be budgeted for, listening to the public to The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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