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    "id": 943994,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kibiru",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 13196,
        "legal_name": "Charles Reubenson Kibiru",
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    "content": "Many times, you will see governors or counties that did not present documents. That is one weakness that we have found. The documents emerge two years later when people are coming to the Senate. We keep asking that if we could not get the contract for the construction of the mortuary in Tharaka-Nithi County at that point in time, how come a copy of the contract that is stamped becomes available two years later to be brought to the Senate Committee? The governors need to take this process seriously. I do not know what mechanism we will put in place, but as Chief Executive Officers (CEOs), the governors need to be in charge of this process; just the way they are in charge in trying to ask for more money and expending it. We know that not a single penny is expensed in the counties without governors getting involved. As much as they do that and to avoid the allegations of witch-hunt, let the governors be in charge of the audit process. Some governors have County Executive Committee Members (CECs) in charge of finance, who do not even understand issues about financial statements. The other day when we went to Mombasa, we had one of the chief officers of Mombasa County who did not have an ICPAK number. When he was challenged to bring the number, the gentleman left the room, and we have never seen him up to date, almost three months down the line. The governor tried to explain the circumstances, but you can see the joke that governors take when it comes to the audit process. The stalled projects is my pet subject. The other day, we passed a Motion here that the first charge of the budget, especially for projects, should be on stalled projects. We still have Kshs366 billion in stalled projects. The Auditor-General flagged them the other day, but I will not be surprised that the same issues will come up in the last financial year. We need to ask ourselves, as the Senate, how we recommend performance audit; value for money. I asked the Controller of Budget about this. For example, when one approves the purchase of baskets, a basket that probably costs about Kshs150, in the fullness of time, could be bought for Kshs10,000. We have incidences that I do not want to mention for purposes of---"
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