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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "There is an issue that bothered me, and it has been highlighted in the report. We asked the Auditor-General why he insists that the opinions that they render are standard documents. We therefore asked the question if the report of the Auditor-General says that they have made a determination which is also stating that there was no misuse of public funds and then in the next paragraph, talk about stalled projects worth Kshs140 million like in the case of Makueni County, that is a contradiction in logic. You cannot have it both ways. It is either you cannot render an opinion or there is misuse even if you have not verified. However, if you are the Auditor-General, you cannot say that you have not verified. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the CPAIC, led by Sen. M. Kajwang’ has pinpointed a key fundamental issue that Sen. Kibiru brought to the attention of the Senate through a Motion on the completion of stalled county projects through budgetary management. In the case of Makueni County, this is an on-going issue. They have projects which have never commenced or are halfway done yet they have been paid a sum of Kshs140 million. We asked the question, if that is the case, is that not an audit query. Why would the Office of the Auditor-General issue an unqualified opinion based on paper? According to the Auditor-General, my county has presented such good paper that it qualifies for an unqualified audit opinion. When Sen. M. Kajwang’ and I asked the Governor of the questions, Gov. (Prof.) Kibwana made a general comment that was directed at us. The Governor said that in Kenya, it is a bad thing to do well because we asked a fundamental question. According to the governors who had unqualified audit opinion, the CPAIC led by Sen. M. Kajwang’ should lead a team of Senators to that county and clap for them. Maybe, they expect us to carry rose flowers, hold a party and cut a cake for them because we are not supposed to ask questions. The person who represented the Auditor-General in today’s meeting said that it now appears that their opinion should appear at the bottom. In logic, your opinion and conclusion cannot appear at the top and then contradict yourself in the middle. For purposes of the public because the documents that they present are for the public and the person who does not understand what an accounting standard is. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if you go to Kathonzweni and talk about the accounting standards that I heard today that even I did know existed, that you can qualify your opinions and then contradict it, then it is understood, it does not make sense. In real essence for purposes of audit, the Public Audit Act and the Constitution only qualify the use of public resources. They say that if you have a building that you have constructed The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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