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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Murkomen",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Majority leader",
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        "legal_name": "Onesimus Kipchumba Murkomen",
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    "content": " Yes, he left the Chamber to attend to other matters in the middle of a serious debate. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when you make a decision finally, you should also consider that all of us were here. Sen. Orengo’s submission was that Parliament can be injuncted. He went straight to the argument that you can injunct Parliament. This House must make that decision. If you agree with Sen. Orengo’s submission that we are part of the new constitutional order and constitutional democracy where Parliament can be injuncted, then make that ruling in black and white, so that we know that any time these characters out there are investigated--- What Members of the CPAIC are struggling with is that governors refuse to appear before us despite the fact that Article 125 says that Parliament can summon anybody. You can come and disagree on what you submit in the Committee, but you must appear before Parliament when summoned. That section will also be suspended because someone could go to court and say they will obey Article 125 of the Constitution because there is a court order. If that is the case, we will never do anything. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, my point is that it is not about the Governor of Taita/Taveta County. I said last time that we carried our investigations on impeachment, but acquitted all those people. Secondly, in Governor Wambora’s case where I sat in the Committee, there was an injunction, but we still summoned him to come. There was a court order, but he came. He said he would make all arguments without prejudice. We did our investigations and impeached him. That impeachment forced him to go through all the processes of court up to the Supreme Court of Kenya that made a ruling. It also forced him to behave because he knew there was already a process of accountability. We are not saying that when we impeach someone and they survive - like the other ones who survived - that they are not going to correct their ways. Our report of this House still informs how that governor and how that county will behave. Our intention here is not to remove a governor by all means. It is the impeachment process that will inform this. You cannot tell me that the impeachment process of President Bill Clinton did not impact on how he was going to behave and on how other presidents were going to behave in the White House with interns."
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