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    "speaker_name": "Sen. M. Kajwang’",
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        "legal_name": "Moses Otieno Kajwang'",
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    "content": "that they did not have the right people to put in place a proper financial management system. In the first year, even the Public Procurement and Disposal Act (PPDA) had not been revamped to be in line with the new Constitution and devolution structures. Indeed, the PPDA that we are applying now came into force in 2015; one or two years after this financial year. Yes, there was an Act, but it had to be amended later on to take into account the county governments. Therefore, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there were serious legal gaps and capacity issues, yet there are those governors who were clever enough to take advantage of those gaps to pilfer. There were county government officials who took advantage of those gaps to do the things that they were not supposed to do. It is upon this House to look at that Report. I would also want to tell the House that it is not too late to pass judgment or make a decision and determination on these issues. In Nigeria, prosecution of governors over corruption took a very long time. In fact, it is not too long ago that the first governors were convicted for abuse of office. Therefore, six or seven years down the line is not too late. I want to assure this House that the CPAIC is working round the clock. As I speak, the Clerks assigned to this Committee are holed up in Naivasha to ensure that they write the reports. This is so that we can spend more time discussing the findings of the CPAIC in this House, rather than discussing in a closed room – in Committee Room No.5 – with governors. We have even agreed that in the month of October, we shall halt our public hearings to ensure that all the reports from the hearings that we have held are brought to this House. This is because there is no point in us having a conversation with ourselves for the entire year, and not bringing reports to this House. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have now started looking at issues from 2017/2018. One of my colleagues, Sen. Wamatangi, calls it “climbing the tree from the top.” Sometimes it might be important for us to do that, because we have seen cases where current governors come and blame former governors for all the bad things that could have happened in those counties. We want to hold the former and current governors to account. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to allow time for Members of the Committee and the House to pronounce themselves and guide the Committee on these matters, but allow me to finalize with the issue of implementation. When I started making my presentation, I made it clear that seven reports have been adopted by this House; Kisii, Homa Bay, Kilifi, Nakuru, Kajiado, Turkana and Narok counties. These reports were adopted in the last Session in 2018. The expectation is that three months after the House adopts a report, the relevant accounting officers shall tell Parliament the measures that have been taken to implement the recommendations of Parliament."
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