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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Halake",
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        "legal_name": "Abshiro Soka Halake",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I am very aware of that, and this where the problem is. My debate was going in that direction. As much as there are public and private forests, we cannot divorce the issue of ownership between private, community and public land in relation to our forest cover. We cannot have a sustainable conservational forest that excludes communities as not owners. There is community land. In 2006 about 60 community lands were degazetted as public forests. They became no-go-zones for the communities living around them because it was a public forest. The fact that we are not acknowledging that communities should own land that actually belong to them is not fair. This is called community forests. It is not sustainable The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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