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    "id": 948763,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/948763/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Getrude Musuruve Inimah",
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    "content": "important because they will be owned by the people in all the counties. This will ensure that the problem of logging is dealt with by planting trees. I remember that Sen. Kihika, with a heavy heart, brought a petition from her constituents concerning the problem of logging. We need to have a solution on logging. People should not log without a plan. If there is any logging, then there is need replace the cut down trees even threefold. We cannot avoid cutting down trees simply because of their importance. Trees provide timber, firewood and paper. Therefore, we cannot rule out felling trees, but there is need to come up with a mechanism, like the one Sen. Kasanga is proposing here, to ensure that trees are not depleted. If there is any logging, it should then be followed by massive planting of trees. When the communities are involved, it is a win-win situation, because the communities and residents will support the agenda. If the communities are involved, they will see the value for community associations. They should also be given jobs. We should not have community forest associations being started in the counties without involving the communities. If the communities in the counties are involved, people will see the value for the associations. It will be easy for ward administrators and chiefs to convene"
}