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"speaker_name": "Nominated, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. David ole Sankok",
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"content": "so that they can stay in prison as we develop our country. If they stay out of prison, they will destabilise our country. When they go to prison for 10 years, some of them get more experience on how to steal. Kamiti Prison inmates commit cybercrimes using phones. Sometimes they even get more tactics on how to steal. We want them to stay there for some time as we try to put in place relevant laws to deter them from engaging in corruption. If you fine someone less than Kshs1 million and he has stolen Kshs700 million, you already know that he has the money. They will just walk to court, pay the fine and proceed to steal more because they know that they will be fined less than what they have stolen. So, it is business. That is what we do in business. You invest some money because you know you will make more than that. It will become a business between the courts and corrupt individuals. They can invest less, which is Kshs1 million, and steal Kshs700 million."
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