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    "id": 950279,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kiminini, FORD-K",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) Chris Wamalwa",
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        "legal_name": "Chrisantus Wamalwa Wakhungu",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. The Member is my friend. On a matter sub judice, it is in our Standing Orders. It will be good if he familiarises with it, so that he understands what it means. In my pronouncement, I did not go into issues of merits and demerits. That is what sub judice is all about. He is a first timer. He has a long way to learn. Next time he will know what it is. The Kimwarer Dam Project is in public domain. A taskforce was put in place by His Excellency the President and from its findings, the President cancelled the Kimwarer Dam Project. The reason that was given is that the pricing was exaggerated. I empathise with the people of Elgeyo Marakwet, who are my neighbours, on this matter. However, that is the reason we are talking about corruption and how it has been institutionalised. It is in institutions even here in Parliament. So, what I am trying to put across is that the issue is not the penalties. When this Bill by Hon. Ndindi Nyoro will be before the Committee of the whole House, we will see how we will do amendments. I do not think the problem is with the penalties. The problem is in investigations. I support the Bill and we are together in it. Corruption is everywhere including in the counties. The challenge is not in the penalties."
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