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    "id": 950312,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/950312/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kimilili, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Didmus Barasa",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Didmus Wekesa Barasa Mutua",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this Bill. I want to thank Hon. Ndindi Nyoro for coming up with it because the intention is very good. This country is losing a lot of money in the form of corruption. We should ask ourselves one question. The amount of money which this country is losing is always increasing despite the efforts by Government agencies to fight corruption. Instead of corruption going down, it is increasing every day. Is it that the penalties are very low? I do not think so. They say that prevention is better than cure. What the police and the EACC do is just to implement one of the elements of fighting corruption being taking the people involved to court. But I have every reason to believe that the overall fight against corruption lies in the hands of accounting officers. What accounting officers should do is that after investigations are carried out and it is clear the route the corrupt used to syphon money, they should go back to the offices and review their systems to close down the loopholes the corrupt people used to syphon the money. I am a believer that people used the same ways to steal money in the NYS 1 and the NYS 2. If we had NYS 3, I still believe people would use the same formula. It is important for accounting officers to do system audit assisted by investigative reports to identify loopholes and risk areas. This should be mitigated by way of improving procurement and audit procedures. Arresting people and taking them to court will not stop corruption in this country. What will stop corruption are penalties. The system is sabotaging me."
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