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    "id": 950345,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kisauni, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Mbogo Ali",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 13383,
        "legal_name": "Ali Menza Mbogo",
        "slug": "ali-menza-mbogo"
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    "content": "We have heard all the Members here say that about 30 per cent of our Budget is stolen, so if our Budget is around Kshs2 trillion, 30 per cent of it is about Kshs600 billion per year. For the number of years that you will be in this Parliament, you are looking at Kshs3 trillion that will have disappeared through thin air and yet that money is within this country. That money is here. I fully support what our legal expert, Dr. Amollo, has said. He said we need to adopt alternative dispute resolution mechanisms. It is high time we gave a grace period or amnesty to those who have stolen the money to return it and develop this country. That is because the money that is stashed all over the world is not helping this country. If that money was here, it would have done wonders. There should be a mechanism. It has been done in many jurisdictions in the world. People are adopting that mechanism whereby you agree on whatever has been stolen, what needs to be returned to the country and what will be left to whoever has stolen the money. It is an option that needs to be considered seriously. Otherwise, this route of going to courts or amending laws every day, we will come up with whatever laws we want to come up with but, at the end of the day, if investigations are not effective, no convictions will happen. We were told by Hon. Chief Justice that they will determine a case based on the evidence that has been put forward by the investigating arm. If the evidence is weak, what do you expect from the courts? The culprits will just be released and nothing will happen to them. Whatever has been stolen will disappear for good."
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