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"speaker_name": "Kisauni, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Mbogo Ali",
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"content": "We need a paradigm shift from the way we approach these issues. I fully support what Hon. Nyoro is proposing. It is a very good proposal but, at the end of the day, even if we say a minimum of 10 years, going by what we have now, we have not seen those convictions. That is what pains me. The other day, we were told kila mtu atabeba msalaba wake mwenyewe. Today, Kenyans are saying: “Bring that msalaba since I am ready to carry it.” That is because they know they will be taken to court and they will use the same money to bail themselves out. We need to prepare ourselves and we need a serious civic education all the way from ECD level upwards. Without that, this country is doomed."
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