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    "id": 950360,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kesses, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Swarup Mishra",
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        "legal_name": "Swarup Ranjan Mishra",
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    "content": " We should see the broader picture of this Bill. First of all, we should find out why there is corruption. Kenya has a great history and heritage in this world. Kenya is growing every day. It has great people. It is a very mature democracy with advanced technology and infrastructure. It is the only country which has shown mature democracy in Africa today. It has moved from a single party rule to multi-party politics; from autocracy to democracy. It is the only Third World country in the world which allowed the re- run of the presidential vote. We have the potential to be one of the most developed countries very soon. We should also sit down and examine why there is corruption. Who is engaged in corruption and why is it not stopping? I will give an example. If the police, army, security agencies and the National Intelligence Service (NIS) are not paid well, corruption cannot be eradicated from them. Two, when there is a crisis like corruption; we do not have to play blame game. We have to manage the crisis. After that, we have to sit down and see, retrospectively, what the problem was. Then, we can be an example. We remember the then President of Russia, the great Stalin. We remember that he went to a railway station in Moscow and together with security agencies, pointed out 10 people who were travelling without tickets. He ordered that they be shot and all the 10 people were shot dead. Since that time, Russia has never experienced any one passenger travelling without a The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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