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    "id": 950372,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/950372/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Ugenya, MDG",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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        "legal_name": "David Ouma Ochieng'",
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    "content": "Secondly, we should ensure that we have zero tolerance to corruption. When we get to the budget of the PSC, you hear Hon. Members saying: “Oh! They only stole Kshs2 million. Others have stolen Kshs7 billion.” Corruption is corruption, irrespective of whether a million shillings or a billion shillings has been lost. We are normalising corruption by saying that somebody has stolen too little while others have stolen more. We are making it very easy for everyone else to steal because we base it on quantum. We must push for zero tolerance to corruption so that anything small you do that is against the law is punished. A report came out three years ago on what the young people think about leaders in Parliament and life in general. The reason you hear people use the words ‘hustler nation’ and feeling nice about it, is because it does not matter how you made it. If you are driving a Range Rover or a Mercedes Benz, the young people say it does not matter how you got it. What matters to them is that you are driving a classy car. The values we have passed on to our children and society are wrong. So, hoping, like Hon. Ndindi Nyoro that, by putting a higher punishment this will go, is wrong."
}