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    "id": 952794,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/952794/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Murkomen",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Majority Leader",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 440,
        "legal_name": "Onesimus Kipchumba Murkomen",
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    "content": "We cannot oversight that money because we do not know how it was negotiated for or from which donor, and so on. Therefore, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, why can the Committee on Finance and Budget intentionally not decide that as early as possible, even in the month of October, that you have a meeting with all donors together with the Steering Committee of the Kenya Donor Support Program. You should then have a conversation on this issue of conditional grants, so that even if it remains a conditional grant, let counties participate in the negotiation of those conditional grants so that the criteria for accessing them becomes objective. That way, we will be able to say here confidently that we are sending Kshs4.5 billion to Elgeyo Marakwet County, and we have mechanism of oversighting that money. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, what happens is that if you see most of the urban areas in our counties, donor funds from the World Bank (WB), for example, build roads. The county governments then allocate money through the roads department to the same project. It is, therefore, impossible to determine how much was enough for donor funding, and how much was for that. That is how pilferage, stealing of money and corruption takes place. Therefore, that is an area that we must tighten, as the Senate. Lastly, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we must continue fighting this monster called corruption. Let me speak as the Leader of Majority; and it is a conversation that we have had with the Leader of Minority and the Senate Business Committee (SBC). I want to encourage our brothers and sisters in the County Public Accounts and Investment Committee (CPAIC), that the expectation of this House is so high. Even though they are active every day – and I can say this from the leadership perspective – many of the Members of this House still feel that their performance is below par. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there are complaints that sometimes we are having cozy relationships with governors when they arrive in these committees. We are accused that we keep praising them, thanking them for being our former classmates, and telling them that we look forward to coming to have tea in their villages. There is nothing wrong with that---"
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