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    "id": 952853,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 124,
        "legal_name": "Samson Kegeo Ongeri",
        "slug": "samson-ongeri"
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    "content": "It is the governor, but we will consult the Senator to give us an appropriate date. It is good to have the Senator, MCAs of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) of that county and members of the public. When time permits, we will also go out and inspect some projects. Next month the CPAIC will use a different approach for its programmes. Having said that, one of the headaches we must cure is that when we pass this Schedule, the National Treasury must adhere to it because they do not disburse funds on time. Consequently, the counties are unable to meet some of their expenditures. This has created a loophole, where they go looking for funds. Some of them even spend own source revenue to meet some of their obligations which they describe as urgent. That is against public accounts management rules. Therefore, this Schedule must be strictly adhered to. If they say that they will release Kshs55 billion at once for July, August and September, they better do so within one week. If that were to happen, then my county will get Kshs1,354,746,600 as equitable share disbursement. That is a good sum of money that they should make good use of. With this in hand, we should oversight and know where these funds have gone. We should know whether funds have been used in accordance with the budgets they pass. We should also know whether these funds will be spent according to the programmes on the ground in the first quarter of disbursement. We can use that to pin them down. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do not want to preempt the report that will be tabled here. However, one of the things that will shock you is that there are many recommendations for action. It is up to this House to make a decision because we can only recommend to you. It is up to this House to make a decision on whether or not those recommendations are acceptable. Some of them are direct surcharges. We now have officers of the Ethic and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) sitting in our Committee meetings. The EACC, on its own motion, can pick up a sticky point, while we prosecute them without wasting time, and go ahead with the investigation. Indeed, they have always done so. Some of the things appearing like the case of Kiambu County Government and many others are as a result of officers of the EACC sitting with us and picking some of the salient features that offend the usage of money in some of the counties. Therefore, they are subject to legal processes. It is not the function of the CPAIC to prosecute. Its function is to shame and ensure those who have misappropriated funds are brought to book. Therefore, with this disbursement Schedule, each Senator will be in position to check how funds have been utilized. They should attend our Committee meetings when we interrogate officials of their respective county governments because they are the people who know whether or The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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