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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Lands",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": " On a point of order, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker. I really want to plead with you. This is not the National Assembly I know. I have been in this House when there have been so many emotive issues. Please, give us time. Even when you stand on a point of order, there are clear rules by which to do so. If everybody is going to shout “point of order”, we will not have decent debate. The rules are that if you have a point of order, you say “point of order” and remain silent. Having said so, I want to give information to this House without fear of contradiction. Just as there are some people, including Ministers, who have been defrauded of Kshs20 million or Kshs30 million because they were told “If you give it to me, I will be able to double it”, there are also hon. Members in this House---- Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I think we should sit in camera because it would be wrong for me to make certain accusations against some Members of this House in public. Even in relation to a lot of land which is giving us a lot of problems, there are Members of Parliament here who are trying to use their positions to distribute Government land without legal authority."
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