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    "id": 960841,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/960841/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal",
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    "content": "This puts us in a situation where we can live in our congested town and reduce congestion. Hon. Millie talked about Hong Kong. There is a part of Hong Kong known as Kowloon where you cannot see the sun. They have 135-storey buildings. If we go in that direction, the capacity of our cities to contain people and provide services like sewage systems, water and roads will be impossible. So, as we do that, we must start thinking. There are cities that have solved this problem. Melbourne does not have high-rise flats, but it is very expansive and has boroughs that are managed. Brasilia was built as a new capital of Brazil because they could not cope in Sao Paulo with congestion. It is large, spread and well managed. There must be a balance between taking care of our environment and getting most people to own property. This Bill does just that."
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