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    "id": 960851,
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    "speaker_name": "Mumias East, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Benjamin Washiali",
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        "legal_name": "Benjamin Jomo Washiali",
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    "content": "First of all, I thank Members. As the Mover and whip, I should admit and declare that I am impressed by the participation of Members and the important comments that have been made during the debate. When I was moving debate on this Bill, and later on when the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Lands was seconding, I was worried that the Bill may not receive the attention it deserves. I am, however, glad to declare that this House has, again, proved to any doubting Thomas that it is up to the task and Members are ready to contribute as much as possible to improve any Bill. I picked a few comments here. I am sure that the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Lands, Hon. Rachael Nyamai, also picked them. I am sure that she will go back to the Committee and try as much as possible to bring the Committee Members on board in terms of the fears that Members have expressed, starting with Hon. Eve Obara. She expressed fears that the purchase of these apartments and houses is being used to wash dirty money. I just thought this is a matter we have to deal with, as a House, even if it is through other means. This House has stood against corruption. I am sure that it will not want the use of purchase of property to wash dirty money. The Central Bank of Kenya has done quite a bit. Cash payments have really been reduced even in terms of withdrawal. Given that most of the houses go for more than Kshs1million, it will be very difficult to explain that you are withdrawing more than Kshs1million in cash to go and pay for a house. I am sure there are other better and safer modes of payment which, of course, will be acceptable to the Banking Act. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, we have taken note of what Hon. (Dr.) Oundo said and we have also appreciated the comment made by the Leader of the Minority Party, Hon. John Mbadi. This Bill will help Government to raise more revenue in terms of rates and fees charged on title deeds. I heard what Hon. William Chepkut said. He raised fears about the Director of Survey. We will encourage him to raise questions so that if there is anything that the Director could be doing behind the backs of the Executive and against the interest of Parliament, then we should get him, through his Cabinet Secretary, to answer and respond to those issues. I hope the Chairperson has noted the issue of the title deeds of the 1,000 hectares that Hon. Chepkut talked about. Generally, this Bill has received 100 per cent support and more than 20 Members of Parliament debated it. With that kind of support, I am sure that in the Committee of the whole House we will work on the little shortfalls in the Bill. We need Kenyans to have a law that will manage their interests in the purchase of property. Hon. Eve Obara said that with this law in place, people will get confidence in purchasing property. The second last Member of Parliament, that is, Member for Masinga..."
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