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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mwaura",
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        "legal_name": "Isaac Maigua Mwaura",
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    "content": "procedure? This is for purposes of uniformity so that you do not find that somebody has been conferred with a lesser honour in county (a) against county (b). I hope this Bill can also speak to the Heroes Act so that there is conformity because there seems to be confusion here. Is it about the Hall of Fame or honouring county heroes? We need to synchronize so that these two Bills can speak to each other because this appears to me, like a devolved version of the Heroes Act, yet the Heroes Act is quite elaborate. The Nelson Mandela Art Museum in Port Elizabeth is a museum which only contains quotes by Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko. These quotes inspire people to achieve greatness. You do not just want to have a Hall of Fame for names. You also want to see those pronouncements. If you go to Beijing, you will find the Temple of Confucius; it contains statements and quotes. You will find quotes by Zhou and his wife Deng; the Prime Minister and Mao Zedong; these were people who were able to transform their country. It is about words and pictures; it is not just about names. We would want to see some inspirational quotes in these Halls of Fame, for example, quotes from Martin Luther King Junior. That needs to be captured. We need to have pronouncements, statements and declarations that transformed the society. Madam Temporary Speaker, when we come to the issue of revocation, how do you guide a governor on this? Even if one might have plagiarized a thesis, or is guilty of a misdemeanor or misconduct, let not the revocation be the decision of one individual to make. Let it also be properly regulated. That idea of just giving somebody a hearing because they are alive is not right. Even for those that are dead; the other day the students at Oxford who were sponsored by Rhodes scholarships, criticized the founder of that scholarship programme because of the atrocities he committed in Rhodesia. When they were asked, they said that when they got the scholarship, they did not sign due to lack of freedom of speech and expression. When you honour corrupt people, this is a testament of how corrupt regimes and corruption can make somebody to buy their way into fame. I do not think there should be some form of revocation. Let it be a testament. For example, it was criminal to be in Mau Mau war yet that is what that brought us freedom. It was criminal to participate in the second liberation of this country yet that is why we enjoy our democracy. If you go to Illinois in Chicago, you will find a whole street named after a well- known gangster, Al Capone. When they take you around they will tell you that was actually a thief. We need that history because history is not replete with good deeds. That is why, if you go to the UK today, people are trying to obliterate the history of colonialism. You heard the pronouncement made by the new Prime Minister Boris Johnson just to get into public office. We need to know, at these critical junctures how the world came to be. We sometimes learn more from failures, bad examples and from the good examples that we have. This is a timely Bill. It argues the case for good leadership and best practices around management of public affairs and exposition of public policy. I wish to support and ask that we consider redrafting some of these provisions. Otherwise, it is in order to have it in place at this point and time."
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