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    "id": 964978,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Thika town, Independent",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Wainaina Jungle",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 13492,
        "legal_name": "Patrick Kimani Wainaina Jungle",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to oppose this Report because land has not been digitised for this long. The moment we want to digitise and then we have headwind, we will wait for very long. I am saying this from experience because we have a land registry in Thika. It serves part of Kiambu and part of Murang’a. You meet very many brokers the moment you go to a land registry. Something as simple as land search is such a big issue and it can take even a week or two before you do the land search. Basically, I am looking at a situation where you are allowed to do a search electronically. You can do that at the comfort of your room. I do not think there will be a time as a country we will say that we are ready for anything. However, people will learn as they do it. We need to go ahead with the digitisation. It is a learning process. I also understand and recognise the fact that the Chief Land Registrar has a lot of power in this one. What we would have done is to amend what we think is not right. I want to mention issues that have happened in Thika. Like now I have an issue of the Delmonte land. The lease to this land is expiring in about two years. If you go to the Ministry of Lands, you will find that the files are not available and somebody has misplaced something. We are talking about a company that brings this country US$10 billion turnover. When we start joking around with the lease, and this is a company which needs to do their planning for 10 years and it is only two years left and they have no lease, it is a very serious issue. If these processes were digital, these people could do their things fast. The other day we were talking about having this land surveyed and that was a very big issue. So, let us not get complacent with land. Land means money. The fact that somebody is unable to transact on his land and the fact that somebody is unable to have a title deed to his land means the person cannot go to the bank and get money. That means the whole economy is dragging because of issues that we could have sorted out. We could have said we are building the economy because we have got an asset and capital. But we are sleeping on it. So, I oppose this report. Thank you very much."
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