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    "id": 965756,
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    "speaker_name": "Muranga CWR, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Ms.) Sabina Chege",
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        "legal_name": "Sabina Wanjiru Chege",
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    "content": "Just to let Kenyans know, from Levels 5 and 6 going up, you will still have to use your NHIF card. So, it will not be free for all, but we want to make sure that health facilities at Levels 1, 2 and 3 are well facilitated with enough personnel. As we talk about UHC, it is about affordability, accessibility and good quality healthcare. Members of the various departmental committees are the ones who do the presentations. If the Budget and Appropriations Committee needs to change what we have recommended, it is good for it to also communicate. Sometimes we are only given 10 or 15 minutes. All of us, as Chairs, go and line up there. The Chair has been kind enough to actually give me a first chance every time I request. This is because my Committee is also dealing with functions that are under county governments. So, if there is something that is not clear, it is important that they recall us. This is because we spend so much time with the Ministry. If I go for 10 or 15 minutes and present to the Budget and Appropriations Committee and something is not clear, it does not mean that we should throw the baby with the bath water. Once again, I thank you because we have the money back. I also want to tell the Chair that I have heard of the recommendation contained in the report from the Treasury, but in our Report, we actually said… As we went through the Budget, we found that there are several ministries which are also supporting UHC. For example, the Ministries of Water, Infrastructure, Energy and ICT have over Kshs1 in support of UHC. I requested the Cabinet Secretary for Health that we should have, maybe, within next week, a meeting with all the stakeholders, together with the Committee from the Senate. They are the ones who do oversight. They are the ones who will go to the counties to see whether what we give as conditional grants to the counties are being utilised well. They are the ones who do oversight. We cannot go to the counties. Therefore, I will be reporting back to this House when we have that meeting with the Ministry, the CEC of Health at the county level; the Chairs of health committees at the county level, the governors, senators and us. I also wish the Budget and Appropriations Committee The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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