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"content": "Some of the proposals to contain the situation were to come up with a heavy penalty for a fire setup in a county. By doing so, if someone thinks of setting up fire, they should know where to get the money. The Committee on Finance and Budget should come up with serious legislation to ensure that this does not happen in the future. Like others have said, we need to have other systems that can back up the information and the data. Mr. Speaker, Sir, so many questions have been raised in this House about the Integrated Financial Management Information System (IFMIS). We have never demystified and gotten the right answers regarding the IFMIS. We have had Motions and Statements on the Floor of this House, but we still do not understand where the delinking is. When we go to the counties, the governors say that they use the IFMIS but how do we get the money that disappears? We are a signatory to Open Governance Partnership (OGP). Therefore, we need to have open governance systems and partnerships. That means that open and transparent systems must be real time, so that even if you have finance offices burnt, we can still have the data that every Kenyan can look at and understand what is going on. We are letting down Kenyans. The fires are an epitome of problems in the counties. I thank you."
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