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    "id": 976826,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "I rise to second the Lifestyle Audit Bill No. 2 of 2019, with general comments as follows. One, this is an extremely ambitious Bill. I have my own difficulties about some of the provisions, and I will mention them as I Second so that Sen. Farhiya can make some corrections. First generally, I think stealing is fashionable in Kenya, it is part of us and so, we have to legislate about stealing. There is a verse in the Bible, “Thou shall not steal” has been converted to thou shall steal, but shall not be caught; which is now commandment number 11. Therefore, Madam Temporary Speaker, this is not about the ordinary Wanjiku in Murang’a; Mwikali in Machakos; Mutheru in Kiambu; Atieno in Kisumu or any other place in Kenya. This is about public servants who have public office; who have been given positions of leadership and who have used those positions to enrich themselves. I had the opportunity in the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights – and I was not sure whether Sen. Kang’ata was in the trip; maybe he was with the Chair, who is here – to sit with a consultative forum in London that deals with anti- corruption measures all over Europe. They gave us a very good example of a governor who stole so much money, was prepared to be jailed – and in fact was jailed for a long time – and after being jailed, they continued monitoring the proceeds of the theft. The wife, ended up being used as a conduit of corruption. This lady used to shop in Harrods and spend so much money. They traced the money to the wife. In this Bill, although Sen. Farhiya has proposed a caveat in terms of family, there is not tracing; you cannot trace. This outfit traced the proceeds of this governor – who took his proceeds and lived in England – to his wife. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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