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    "speaker_name": "Kuresoi North, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Moses Cheboi",
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    "content": "establish centres, so that citizens are not left to the mercies of having to go to very far places to seek treatment and have cheap treatment locally? It came to the knowledge of the Committee, through the discussions that we had, that, in fact, some governments abroad and the Government here are willing to do it, but probably they did not have sufficient land where they could set up this centre. So, we asked the nominee whether he could fast-track that if he got the opportunity. There was also the issue of the National Hospital Insurance Fund (NHIF). It is a serious matter. The NHIF is supposed to serve the public. Sometimes we are not sure whether it is still a social responsibility or it has become commercialised. Those are the kinds of things that the nominee was taken to task about among others. He did well. I think because of his long standing workings with the public and the private sector, he seemed to have a grasp of some of these things. We realised that when you have to appoint somebody to a technical ministry like the Ministry of Health, we do not need to have a doctor. We could also have a manager and the nominee proved that he is a manager. He was able to convince Members that he is able to work in this docket well. When we looked at the other nominee - I want to be brief because I know the seconder of this Motion will have much more to say in this light - she looked like she has good experience. She has worked in different departments. She has worked in the private sector and at one point she was in charge of the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA) as a CEO. That is relevant to the Ministry that she has been nominated to. She has also been a Principal Secretary. In the departments that she has worked in, she has proved that she is very efficient. The Constitution, in addition, sets out certain requirements regarding appointments of persons to public office. The Constitution provides that the State shall take legislative and other measures to implement the principles of not more than two-thirds of members of elective or appointive bodies will be of the same gender. The Committee observed that if the nominees were approved, the Cabinet will comprise of seven women and 14 men which, therefore, will be in compliance with the two- thirds gender requirement. Article 132 of the Constitution provides that the composition of the national Executive shall reflect regional and ethnic diversity of the people of Kenya. The Committee observed that Hon. Mutahi Kagwe hails from Nyeri County and Ms. Betty Chemutai Maina hails from Sosiot in Kericho County. The Committee further observed that although Article 130 of the Constitution provides requirement for regional and ethnic diversity of the people, there is need for these terms to be clearly defined. Hon. Speaker, I want to be clear on this matter, particularly the issue of regional balance. There used to be regions in the previous Constitution, the eight regions. It is very difficult to find regions in the Constitution. Nairobi was a region and the Rift Valley was another region, but in the current Constitution, it is not very clear. This is an area which we need to look at and make sure that we define the regions. Are we talking about counties? Are we talking about constituencies? Or are we talking about ethnicities? If we talk about ethnicities, that is also found in the Constitution. When you look at the ethnic question - I will give you a good example of the Luhya nation - is it a tribe or a conglomeration of tribes? The Kalenjin too. I can see a Member from that region looking at me with very poking eyes. Let us look at the Kalenjin. Do we consider them one tribe or a series of sub-tribes? Those are some of the issues. When we conducted census the other day, we now have even the very small sub-clans like the Lembus, the Sengwer, the Endorois and the Tugen. So, these are the issues that we need to describe. When we talk about ethnic diversity, are we going to consider the Kalenjin, for example, or the sub-tribes The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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