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    "speaker_name": "The Deputy Speaker",
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    "content": "(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Wait a minute. The point of order raised by Sen. Sakaja is an important matter, on conflict of interest, and I want to dispose of it right away. Yes, it is true that Standing Order 99 provides that where a Senator has an interest in a matter before the House, he should declare it; and it ends there. It just says that you should declare it, and that is the end of the matter. The question is; in light of what was raised by the Senator for Nairobi City County – the Senate Majority Leader, having acted as counsel for the Governor of Nairobi City County – does that constitute interest? If you juxtapose that with his moving the Motion before us, I do not think so, and for the following reasons. The matter at hand is about the transfer of functions from the Nairobi City County to the national Government. If the Senate Majority Leader had acted as counsel for either the Governor or the Nairobi City County Assembly in a matter before the House – not in another arm of Government – then his bringing this Motion would raise issues of conflict of interest. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the issues raised is an important area which we must progressively look at, to make sure that the House remains beyond reproach on all matters. Therefore, given the gravity, solemnity and seriousness of the matter before us this afternoon, I would rather we stop it at that. What I have given is an interim ruling. If you want to pursue that matter, Sen. Sakaja or any other Senator, in a more substantive manner, I invite you to approach the Chair for guidance. That can be canvassed perhaps in another sitting. It is so ordered. Thank you."
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