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    "id": 979723,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Mwaura",
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        "legal_name": "Isaac Maigua Mwaura",
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    "content": "has been proven that it actually works. When you kill people publicly, like you will lynch somebody, it sends a very strong message. In fact, if you go to China, around the Confucius Institute, they will show you how such people were executed and corruption went down. I had a conversation with the Minister from Rwanda who informed me that when the President exposed some of them, and they were alleged to be corrupt, corruption went down. So, you need those kind of systems, but they must be buttressed through the rule of law and self-discipline. We need to have both long-term and short-term measures anchored within the law and also drastic measures that would ensure that we send the right kind of signal. I want to laud this Senate because by us impeaching Gov. Ferdinand Ndung’u Waititu, we have not only regained the stature of the Senate, but also sent a strong message to governors; that they should not joke with us to the extent that they were not able to appear before the Senate Committee on Finance and Budget to present about the division of revenue. We still play our role with regard to the monies going to counties, because they do not go to individual governors. Madam Temporary Speaker, the other point that I also would like to highlight is that there is also a nexus between age and corruption. Indeed, the youth are more vulnerable to corruption. This is because when they see corrupt individuals driving big cars and living in very posh estates, they would want to finish school today and tomorrow they are general managers. There needs to be a targeted approach in terms of prevention and community education, specifically to the youth, so that they are taught how to wait and be patient, rather than just stealing so that they can enrich themselves. One of the other things that can be used as a strategy is to glorify those who name corruption. Let them be famous and heroes rather than the current situation in our country, where the most corrupt are the ones who even survive politically. This is because they steal huge amounts of money once, then they can survive longer, while you stay with your little amounts of money. You survive one election and are thrown out because you cannot thereby feed a whole village. Madam Temporary Speaker, as I conclude, we need some kind of social reengineering, so that people are able to see that resources belong to them, and they are the ones who have contributed. Remember the famous statement ‘ sio ya mama yako.’ That is a very alienating statement because it means that if it does not belong to your mother, then it can be stolen. Yes, it is my mother’s because Kenya is my motherland. It is the issue of patriotism and dis-allegiance around ethnic micro-nationalities that compete for patriotism with our motherland. That is something that needs to be done within the inculcation of our youth in terms of social engineering, and also to ensure that the commitment against corruption does not just end as lip service. It should be concerted, sustained and the ranking of people who are least corrupt, even public officials would also encourage them to be re-elected. Madam Temporary Speaker, you know the Mzalendo ranking that we all crave for here in the country. For instance, there is the recently released National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) rankings. If such were to be done, it would ensure that the most successful of this are usually the least corrupt."
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