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    "id": 979748,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/979748/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Pareno",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 13180,
        "legal_name": "Judith Ramaita Pareno",
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    "content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Report. I think Sen. (Dr.) Mwaura has now become an ambassador against corrupt dealings because he has moved several Motions in this Senate that go to the core of corruption issues. Most of the times he has been so passionate about how we can fight corruption. It was an eye-opener for him and others to have gone out there to see how other countries have dealt with this issue. Therefore, we are not the first country that should be dealing with corruption. We do not have to reinvent the wheel. It simply means that all we need to do is to have that goodwill to fight corruption. We already have other countries that have done it, and we can copy from them. The reports are here; they have been tabled and we are debating them. Therefore, it is just about whether we really want Kenya to move forward and be a corruption-free society. If Hong Kong could do what this Report says; that it had gone to the levels where one had to bribe a driver to take them to hospital, even when they were dying. They have been able to deal with it. The factors that were in Hong Kong are the same factors that we have right now. As my sister, Sen. Farhiya says, we have the expertise, brains, people and the might to fight corruption as a country. However, what happens is that we simply do not want to fight corruption in this country. The other day I was looking at how we have so many shopping malls coming up everywhere. Sometimes we are told that there is something called money laundering. We wonder why we have mushrooming of very big businesses, yet the society is not able to support all these at ago. We are being told that right now in this country we have done so much construction of residential houses. We are not doing well in terms of residential business and construction because there are very many houses that have been constructed. Rental income is going down because there are very many rental houses. Do we think beyond some of these things, to look around and see why we are doing that? Is there something that is influencing some of these things that we are doing or do we need to change tact as a country in terms of looking out for who is doing what and where? This Report talks about a new perspective, that is, the motto for that Conference. It is time we looked at what the world is doing. What are these new perspectives in terms of fighting corruption? Sometimes you feel like Kenya is just too much. When you look at the Kshs39 billion arms issue and then there are reports all over the Press about a young man who is dead – and was allegedly supposed to record a statement - then you feel really sad for this country. That brings to the core the issue of witness protection. What are we doing to protect these whistleblowers and witnesses? If we do not deal with that, which is at the core of corruption in this country, it means that a person will see a wrong being done, but not speak because how do you speak---"
}