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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Minority Leader",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
        "slug": "james-orengo"
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    "content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have heard Sen. Murkomen referring to the Senate as a kangaroo court continuously. He should not be addressing us if he thinks we are a kangaroo court. Secondly, he wants to mislead the House that on the case that was filed in the High Court, he led the Senators in that case. In fact, he did not utter a word in that case. It was Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki and I, who led in that case. I was the senior counsel in that case. He is a very junior person when we come to matters of law. He should not be preaching as if he knows the law. Can he mention even one case he has prosecuted in the Supreme Court? Mr. Speaker, Sir, the point is that there is a decision of the High Court sitting in Machakos where a similar case was taken before the High Court. The county assembly in Machakos removed the Deputy Speaker. The court considered what is fair hearing and what is a notice. That court ruled that hearing does not mean that you address that tribunal. It does not mean that you are even present in that tribunal. It is just like when you say public participation in Parliament in the committees, people can undertake public participation even by sending their suggestions digitally and so on. There is a more important question which I want to be addressed if this matter can be dealt with fully. In relation to the removal of the President and the Deputy President, there are specific provisions, which say you must spell out the charges. The process is clearly set out. When it comes to the removal of the governor and the deputy governor, the process is set out because that is a trial. The other thing that the junior counsel is not considering in trying to construct Article 47 is whether an action by Parliament is an administration action. It is not an administrative action. As a legislature, we are exercising our legislative authority under the Standing Orders. If he wants me to give him judicial decisions on what is administrative action, let The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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