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    "id": 997084,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Junet Nuh",
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        "legal_name": "Junet Sheikh Nuh",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I just wanted to add to what you have just said. I know you are a former judicial officer. I think some of what the Judiciary is complaining about might be genuine and we need to listen to them as a House. But I am wondering what the Committee will achieve, as you just said. The courts have powers on their own. The biggest tool the Judiciary has is a court order. Once they issue a court order and you disobey it, the Judiciary has other legal means to address the same matter. The courts can convict a person who disobeys a court order. They can fine you. They have other legal ways of handling the matter. When you cry and say you have no powers, it creates more problems to the citizenry than the problems that exist. A citizen who was to run to the courts for help, and the courts are the ones crying, would not know where to go to. He will wonder: “How do I take my problems to where there is a problem already?” Churches and mosques where citizens can go to are closed. Citizens do not know where to go to. First, people should not assume that the only government that is there is the Executive. There are three arms of government. Even Parliament is part of government. Hon. Speaker, you are the head of an arm of government, as the Chairman of the Parliamentary Service Commission. The Chief Justice is the president of another arm. So, it is one arm of government addressing another arm. Every arm of government has their constitutional obligations, functions and responsibilities. I want to beseech this House that we look at this matter as a House, if we can, because the Committee will report to us. But when I look at it from where I am seated now before I even appear before the Committee as an interested party, the hands of this House are tied. This is a matter for which the Chief Justice should exercise authority on his own at his level. Otherwise, if he says this or that, he will just be like any other person crying on the streets. The biggest order that I lost in this world was the one that said open the server. That order was not implemented. Up to today, I am crying as you see me. You remember that order, Hon. Speaker. That was the biggest order that was defied. These other orders are small things. That was the biggest order I wanted to be implemented. Once I lost it, other orders are small to me. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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