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"content": "I will read (b), (c), and (d) briefly. The word “former” means I no longer benefit from it. If we are clever enough, former staff have got historical memory. They will better advise someone because they can easily save public money. In other jurisdictions, former officers set up offices to offer consultancy services. In the United States of America (USA), former Internal Revenue Service (IRS) officers set up consultancy services and they will tell you, ‘I was a former officer of the IRS.’ They help you to save your time, and negotiate better. This Clause 27, I believe, has to be deleted. I also believe that Clause 28, ought to be deleted, where it says- “A former public officer shall not, during the period of two years immediately preceding the termination of service represent, vouch for or defend any person, whether for remuneration or not, before any reporting entity with which the former public officer had direct and significant official dealings”. Why are you incarcerating me? Why are you making it difficult for me to make a life? Supposed that is the only training that I have had? So, for two years, I will stay hungry just because I happen to have been working in that department. This is draconian and it has to be removed. Because of time, I will state other provisions, which I think are very problematic. Clause 31 states that- “Every public officer shall submit to the Commission a declaration of the income, assets and liabilities of himself, his spouse or spouses and his dependent children under the age of eighteen years”. That is ridiculous. “Dependent children:” They depend on me but the fact that they are dependent, means they do not own anything. If I am paying for their college, and maybe they get a job as a waiter, I have to follow them to know how much money they are making because there is this ridiculous, draconian law that we passed that requires me, as a public officer, to declare how much they are paid as a waiter. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I want to request two more minutes, so that I conclude this matter."
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"content": " Sen. Olekina, you have two more minutes."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. If you look at Clause 31A(2), the National Assembly is given so much power. It says that the Committee of the National Assembly responsible for the ethics of members is the responsible commission- (a) The cabinets; (b) Members of the National Assembly; (c) The Director of Public Prosecution; (d) The Secretary to the Cabinet; I propose that that section be amended to state as ‘Parliament,’ which is both Houses of Parliament. It is important. I am happy that we have the Powers and Privileges Committee that deals with the ethics of our committees. However, even in terms of the National Assembly, it ought to be reduced to that on its own."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Clause 32(3) is another dangerous provision. “A public officer shall within 30 days appointment as a public officer, submit an initial declaration relating to his financial affairs for the period of one year prior to appointment.” Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we have Members of Parliament who spend a lot of money running for re-election. At the time of running, they had so much money, but they lose unfortunately. You want to embarrass that person, that after 30 days, they come to tell you they are bankrupt. Where is the level of respect and privacy to such things? You know that he is no longer in office. I also believe that Clause 34 has to be repealed. I invite members of the Senate to read through it. Clause 39 (2) (a) is also dangerous. It states- “A reporting authority and the Commission shall not conduct concurrent investigations over the same complaint’’ Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we are two distinct Houses. The reason---"
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"content": "Take it to public participation, just the way the National Assembly does because we are two independent institutions that give different opinions. That means that if the Committee on Energy of the National Assembly is seized of a matter of high electricity bills, then the Senate Standing Committee on Energy will not be investigating that matter. That issue needs to be taken up. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I wish I had more time, but I shall say the following. Yes, we may want to appear as if we are compliant with the terms of modern structural adjustment policies, but we have to look at our situation. I will instruct my office to draft amendments and submit them, whether they pass or not. The time the Bill becomes punitive and starts hurting people, is when people shall say I wish I knew or listened. I wish I had more time, but I do not. Let us look at our situation here. Let us create legislation that fits our interest, but not that of Bretton Woods Institutions. I reserve my comment on whether I support or not. However, I know my submissions lead to one conclusion. I thank you."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, that brings us to the end of contributions on the Bill. I call upon the Mover of the Bill to reply. Give the Senate Majority Leader the microphone. Proceed."
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"content": " Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I thank colleagues who have taken time to respond and share thoughts on this Bill. They are as far and wide as you can imagine in a House of 67 legislators. Some agree while others do not. That is the essence of democracy. Sen. Olekina has gone into the lengths and depths of this Bill. It made me curious to know what business he is doing that he does not want many others to know. I know him to be a humble farmer, who goes about his business in an honest way."
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