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"content": "Hon. Farah Maalim): Hon. Ngogoyo, Member of Parliament for Kajiado North, proceed."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for granting me this opportunity. I rise to support the amendment to the Environment Management Control Act that has been introduced by the Member. I also speak as a member of the Committee. I must begin by saying that we will support the amendment because it provides a solution to the larger management of our environment. As a committee, we will also do so with amendments. It is important for everyone to know that we are amending Section 47 of the Act by empowering the Cabinet Secretary to come up with regulation that will maintain and protect. The regulations will go further even to touch on the existing trees. The Cabinet Secretary will come up with regulations of how they"
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"content": "will be removed, in order to maintain wetlands, rivers, lakes, or any other place, including sources of water. As a committee, we also feel that the law should be futuristic. A good law should look at the future and not only now. We think, apart from eucalyptus, and I thank the Hon. Nyenze who mentioned the issue of Mathenge, other counties are not affected by eucalyptus, but by the Mathenge. Let me call it a weed that has now taken over. In Magadi in Kajiado County, the Mathenge shrub has replaced grass. You literally cannot get grass where the Mathenge tree grows. In Baringo County, it is actually a crisis. Therefore, we will support Hon. Mayaka's amendment with another amendment to include any other tree, so that it is not only eucalyptus, but other species that are dangerous to our sources of water, so that we deal with this problem once and for all. The introduction of this amendment gives us an opportunity to make a law that will be very consistent, and that will look at the future. It will enable the Cabinet Secretary together with the National Environment Management Authority (NEMA), because it is the implementing agency, once they realise that there is an hazardous tree, they will create a regulation on how to deal with it. Lastly, I want to talk about Kenya Forestry Research Institute (KEFRI). It is the institute in Kenya that should tell us about any dangerous tree. But because it is ever underfunded, they are not able to do what is correct. First, no foreign tree be introduced to Kenya before testing its impact within a period of time. Normally, they recommend 10 years. Before a tree like eucalyptus was accepted in this country, for 10 years of testing, they should have learned its advantages. It is actually a commercial tree. But in South Africa, it is never planted on government land. It is private people who grow. They are given specific areas where they grow it. They are actually inspected properly. If you visit that country, you will be surprised that KEFRI inspects people who do private tree planting. Therefore, as a committee, we are happy that this amendment going forward will provide a good route. I thank Hon. Mayaka for being foresighted. To improve further, we will be introducing amendments so that this law is not only for eucalyptus, it is for any hazardous tree and it will look at the future and will provide the Cabinet Secretary and NEMA with more tools so that they are able to stop, maintain, and detect. KEFRI will provide the technical knowledge. For your information, KRFRI is one of the best institutions in Africa, but their funding is 90 percent from private sector and Japanese International Cooperation Agency (JAICA). The Government of Kenya does not provide a coin. I challenge our Kenya Kwanza Government. We are saying we want to plant 15 billion trees. The Government needs to provide seedlings. It is only KEFRI that can provide them. The Government does not put even a shilling to KEFRI to provide the seedlings. That will be a major. We cannot have output without input. Let the Government provide the resources so that it also counters the process. If we cut down the existing eucalyptus, it will have a disadvantage. So, going forward, we need to look at it in a better manner. Now that the Government is broad-based, let us also be broad-based when we are thinking about a solution going forward. Thank you very much. And Hon. Mayaka, pongezi sana for that."
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"content": " Member of Parliament for Bonchari followed by Bedzimba of Kisauni."
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"content": " I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this Bill. First of all, I wish to congratulate Hon. Irene Mayaka for moving this Bill this far. When I was growing up in Bonchari, I saw good big rivers, wetlands, and very beautiful vegetation. But over the years, I have seen them decline. I have seen river and waters decline. I have seen the wetlands deplete and I have seen agriculture compromised and not doing well because of adverse effects of what is happening in the environment. I have also seen the ecosystem affected because the animals I used to see in my neighbourhood are not there"
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"content": "anymore. This is because of what is happening to the environment. Indeed, as documented by the World Meteorological Organisation, in the last 30 years, we have seen very adverse effects. We have seen rivers and water sources drying up because of various reasons. We have experienced erratic weather conditions. Rains come when they are not expected and drought spells are very long. The threats to the ecosystems cannot be gainsaid. There is decline in agriculture because of inadequate water, and human population is also affected. That is not to say that all those effects are caused by the eucalyptus trees. We also know from climate change that the main culprits are the greenhouse gases that we need to reduce as far as unsustainable human activities that need to be curbed are concerned."
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"content": "I am happy with the contribution by my colleague, Hon. Ngogoyo, that the Committee will support this amendment Bill, and that there will be other measures to help us conserve and improve our water sources. However, as we think about legislating on what will improve, enhance, and sustain our water sources, we also need to incentivise and encourage the people who live around rivers, so that they can establish sustainable conservation measures, and not necessarily through the law. The law should be one among many measures that we can put in place to conserve our water sources."
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"content": "Hon. Temporary Speaker, with those few remarks, I support the Bill. I also congratulate my colleague, Hon. Irene Mayaka."
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