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"speaker_title": "Hon. Kassim Tandaza",
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"content": " Ahsante, Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Katika Mswada huu, niko sawa kabisa kumuunga hata mguu. Kabla mikono ishikane, ni lazima mguu ufanye kazi kumkaribia ndiyo niweze kumuunga mkono. Sikuwa na dhamira yoyote mbaya kama Mhe. wa Eneo Bunge la Jomvu anavyofikiria. Mimi na Mhe. Irene tuna heshima zetu na tunazungumzia mijadala kwa niaba ya Kenya nzima ili tuweze kuiokoa."
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"content": "Ninaunga mkono Mswada huu. Kongole kwa Mhe. Irene Mayaka. Ahsante."
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"content": " Mhe. Suzanne Kiamba. Atafuatwa na Mhe. Lelmengit na Mhe. Ruweida."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to give my input in this very important Bill. I thank my colleague, Hon. Irene, for bringing it because this has been a menace in Kenya. It was very difficult to have any judgement on how to move about it. It is a bold step to have it in a Bill, so that we eventually have an Act which will spell out where you should plant different types of trees."
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"content": "While I congratulate her on bringing this Bill, we must realise that planting these trees cost a lot of money. I know people who have very big plantations today. I wonder what incentives we will give them, so that they can feel very encouraged as they do away with the eucalyptus. We support it because we are the ones who should also be concerned. We have to put in place measures to safeguard the farmers. Those who planted the trees in the wrong places it was a result of the advice from the Government and extension officers. What kind of incentive will we put in place, so that they do not lose so much? I am saying this because I have neighbours, even in arid areas, who spent their hard-earned income out of the wrong advice to have this kind of investment. It is very inhuman for people to get such pieces of advice, and then they suffer so much. I support this Bill. In view of this, as a developing country in Africa, we believe so much in outsiders. This will not only cost us in matters trees, but also our health. We have a number of research institutions in Kenya. I do not know whether it is us, legislators, who are not giving them the mandate or resources to ensure that everything new we bring in this country is research-led. We are now discovering eucalypti are harmful to the environment 60 years after they were introduced. If we continue copying and pasting, what next are we going to discover? It is high time we activated our research institutions to have research-led interventions. This way, we will avoid pitfalls like the one we are witnessing with eucalyptus. I am sure many people will tell me they have made a lot of money, which is also true. But, where else are we going to earn this money? I think we should still go back to this research because we need some advice from our research institutions. We need money. As we do away with these eucalyptus trees, what are we going to plant that will mature early and give us the benefits we shall lose from uprooting the eucalyptus? As I support this Motion, I wish we could have research-led interventions in this country. This will advance interventions and we will not have to redo research. Somebody else said that out of practice we realise we are losing a lot. Otherwise, I congratulate you Hon. Irene for this very important Motion. I hope soon we will have it as an Act which will enable us to protect our catchment areas. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Paul Abuor",
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Yes, what is your point of order?"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Paul Abuor",
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"content": " I stand under Standing Order 95. Going by the debate in the House, most Members are supporting the Motion and many people have contributed. I kindly request that the Mover be now called to reply."
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"content": " Order! You will have your moment, but give opportunity to one or two more Members who have serious issues to contribute on this matter. Hon. Lelmengit, then the Member for Lamu, who has some serious issues on this matter, then Hon. Denar. After that, you can rise on that point of order."
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