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"speaker_name": "Buuri, UDA",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I have looked at the Bill and noticed that it has met the threshold of what is required for it to be presented in this House for deliberations. I join the other Members in supporting the Bill. One note of concern is the utilisation of resources that are either with the national Government or the county governments. Allocating more funds to the national Government or county governments does not mean that they will utilise them properly or implement the intended purpose. The national Government and county governments should work together, particularly during critical times such as droughts, health crises, and floods. Article 190 of the Constitution gives us the leeway to allocate more funds to the counties because they need development. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "The Bill addresses pertinent issues, which I will summarise. I have noticed that there is CAIPs, which is a very important component of the national Government’s agenda. I would like to disabuse the notion that the counties are being developed by county governments. The national Government and the county governments are in partnership. The CAIPS will create areas that will enhance value addition, create storage facilities, and become centres of innovation where trading can be done effectively and in an organised manner. In Meru County, the CAIP is situated in my constituency. We are excited that the national Government and the county government are in a partnership. We are an agricultural county. My constituency is the largest producer of flowers, wheat, potatoes and vegetables, which feed almost the entire northern frontier. We should support this Bill and allocate more funds to the counties. We have gone through a tempting and embarrassing situation where provision of medical services in this country has been put to a test. Hon. Temporary Speaker, we have seen the crisis in the medical sector. We have many unemployed doctors. Interns and employed doctors have never been paid their salaries. We all know that health is devolved. Therefore, the Government has to come in handy and clear those arrears so that the country can move on. We, as the national Government, need to release more funds to the counties. The question that we need to ask ourselves here is why the counties waited until we reached this point where there is a crisis. Many people will say the national Government delayed in sending the money, but that is not the truth. There is improper utilisation of the resources and lack of priorities in the county governments. It is quite embarrassing that in a country of Kenya’s age, doctors cannot be paid. We all know that health is a very important factor in this country. I have seen there is money to support CHPs. However, I am a bit embarrassed here because we only have 3,716 CHPs in Meru County. We have been told that every CHP will be in charge of 100 households. I have multiplied and found that the CHPs will cover only 371, 600 households in Meru County. Surely, this is not even a half of Meru County's entire households! This means that we are far from meeting the expectations in the health sector in terms of provision of healthcare. We would like to allocate more resources in this sector or area. I have seen that there is a problem with the money that comes from development partners. If you look at the schedule that has been provided here, you will notice there are so many projects. Some of them are repeated, but there is nothing wrong with that. The only problem is accountability. Year in, year out we send money from the development partners to counties which oversee the utilisation and implementation of these projects. I join my colleague, Hon. Ochanda, who said we give a lot of unconditional revenue to counties every year. I will give an example. We appropriate money for informal settlement schemes. There are Kenya urban settlement schemes which we do not know. These things are not visible at the counties. I have seen two programmes here on climate change which are parallel. One is allocated Ksh3.3 billion and the other one Ksh1.2 billion. I have seen the allocation on drought is repeated. What is the basis of bringing this money? Who oversees it? The money for Kenya Informal Settlements Improvement Project (KISIP) and Kenya Urban Support Programme (KUSP) is appropriated in this House. However, it is a conduit. What normally happens after that? What is the value of this money that is given to counties year in, year out? It is a concern to us. I am yet to see a Governor who will rise up and issue a policy statement on the education sector, health sector, agriculture sector, or water sector. All what we see is impromptu implementation of one or two projects discriminatively. They do not go to areas where they have no support. They neither speak about water policy nor health policy. That is why our country is grinding to a halt in terms of the health sector."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Mugambi Rindikiri",
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"content": "In as much as we are saying we obey Article 190 of the Constitution on support for county governments, time has come for accountability. We should not only pass Bills on additional revenue, but also we must have accountability of all the money that is given to the counties. What happens after we pay the salary arrears? After we give them the green light to use the money collected from the courts, what happens next? These are the basic questions that you really need to ask. All the money that is taken to the counties must have a correspondent policy. I can see here that we are giving them money collected from the courts, but there is no framework."
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"content": " Give him one minute."
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"speaker_name": "Buuri, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Mugambi Rindikiri",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. How are we allocating more money without a framework? There is money that is deposited into the Consolidated Fund. We need a framework to guide how to withdraw money from that Fund. There must be a law, but this Bill says we should give them the money. Are we doing the right thing? We understand the others. However, where the law is needed, we must pass it before we allocate the money. We must challenge the counties. We must ask ourselves why they wait until a county has arrears. Why do we have to wait until we start pumping them with money? The national Government is spoiling the county governments."
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"content": "The cost of living cannot be apportioned to the national Government only; it also needs to be apportioned to the counties because they have money for agriculture, water, and drought. When we bash the national Government for the high cost of living, we should not spare the counties, more so Meru County. The governors must say what they are doing to reduce it. I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Hon. Makali Mulu."
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"speaker_name": "Kitui Central, WDM",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I want to add my voice to this important debate on the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 2 of 2025)."
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