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"content": "Let us insist as a House that we are not going to sit and watch as people claw back on devolution by using processes that deny counties the power to take control of the basic needs of our people, because that is what the Fourth Schedule that allocated these functions to county desired to do. Let counties have money to deal with their basic needs. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with that, I support and want to be grateful to the Chairperson and Members of the Senate Standing Committee on Finance and Budget for being here so far until now. Thank you."
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"content": " Sen. Eddy, thank you for the contributions that you have made to that Budget Policy Statement. I have requests from Members who are not in the Chamber. Sen. Faki is not in the Chamber. Sen. Essy Okenyuri, please proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. First, before I go into contributing to the Budget Policy Statement, allow me to send my sincere condolences to the family and friends of Baby Riwadh Yasir Noor. In the Committee of Health, we were investigating this case of negligence. Unfortunately, we lost the baby and he is being buried today according to the Muslim traditions. It is very unfortunate that even the report on that baby is not yet out, for the family to get justice. May Noor's soul rest in eternal peace. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I would like to now get back to the Budget Policy Statement. I am a Member of that Committee and we have taken quite a number of engagements to listen to the different stakeholders who came and their proposals. We had the independent commissions who came by and gave their proposals. Of interest was, the Kenya Human Rights Commission (KHRC). We learnt that most of these independent commissions have no budget to open their offices in different parts of the country. Looking at the recent conflict that we have had at the border of the Kisiis and Maasais; had we had such a commission, it would be very easy to investigate injustices commissioned in those areas. So, because of lack of budget, this particular commission is not able to have an office in that region and residents in that area end up suffering because they have to travel all the way either to Nairobi or the nearest offices. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if I follow what Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale was saying, Parliament has the space to correct some of these issues. We should not leave politics at play to determine what we are going to allocate. If we have the mandate to propose what budgetary allocations should go to what sectors, let us not leave that to appear that we are pleading with the two principles to actually give special consideration as my colleague Sen. Eddy was trying to put into context. There are several other issues that have come to play. Look at the health sector, the roads, and so many other issues which have been highlighted. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "I would like to mention this particular issue that the Cabinet Secretary for the Ministry of the National Treasury and Economic Planning who failed to bring his views to this Committee because he had already submitted the same in the National Assembly. As the Senate we are really missing the point. When the Constitution pronounces itself on what Parliament is, that, Parliament is both the National Assembly and the Senate, and we have a role to play because these are matters which are touching on counties. I feel the conduct of the Cabinet Secretary to this Committee needs to be noted, and the Senate needs to bite, or rather we get an explanation as to why the particular Cabinet Secretary decided to take the route he took, even after we as the Members of the Committee burnt the midnight oil trying to come up with this report to present to the House. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, overall projections show that inflation is within the targeted ranges that had been given, and this decline shows that we need to add more resources because initially we said inflation levels are very high, so we were cutting down on money that is going down to, for instance, counties. Now that inflation is coming down, we expect that counties this time round are going to actually get more money. My plea to county chiefs, especially when it comes to use of this money, let us use money wisely so that we are not having county chiefs who are wasting public resources when we in Nairobi are working very hard to ensure that they are getting this money so that we have services closer to the people, are actually taking it for granted. On the issue of own-source revenue, this is something we also need to touch on because most of the pending bills that we are talking about in this Budget Policy Statement are as a result of counties overestimating their own sources of revenue. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am working behind the curtains to have a proposal that will force counties to state what they can raise basing on their last own-source revenue they had raised. This is so that we do not have counties projecting more than they are able to actualize and then we end up with large amounts of pending bills. We thank our Chair for being with Members of the Committee throughout this process and now we have this report for Members to contribute on. Unfortunately, we have few Members this evening and yet, these are matters that touch on their counties. Citizens from all counties are waiting to see what we have to say concerning ordinary people."
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"content": " Sen. Eddy, what is your point of order? Sen. Essy, resume your seat."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is a compassionate clause and I did not want to interrupt the Chair of Committee on Trade. I may get in trouble and yet, I have a Bill in that Committee but this is on a lighter note. After consultations with a few Members on WhatsApp, I have realized that the House is seemingly empty because our colleague, Sen. Betty Montet, lost her husband and the service was today in the afternoon. Most of us were there yesterday on the eve of the service, but today is a major family service and a significant number of colleagues have gone to be with her. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "I do not want to say that this is indicative of the House, but I have just been reminded that most of us have gone to be with our sister, Hon. Betty. Some of us are here to make sure that the House business is transacted and we will give this report the justice that it requires. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I wanted to speak about this because Sen. Essy is concerned, just the way we are concerned with the population in this House."
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