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"content": " Sen. Osotsi had a balance of 13 minutes. If he is around, he can utilise his minutes. If not, we will go the next person."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like to make a few observations on this Petition. First of all, I would like to thank Mr. Laban Omusundi because what he raised is very important."
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"content": "From the outset, I would like to say that I am the midwife of the Office of the County Attorney Act of 2020. I remember Ms. Kavata here was my committee clerk then when I used to chair the powerful Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights. Luckily, she is seated here."
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"content": "According to my estimation, we did a good job because many counties were outsourcing legal services as a way of siphoning public money. I also thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, because I know you were part of the instrumental people who assisted us while in the National Assembly in passing this when you served in the “lower House”."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, yesterday, one of your colleagues dismissed this House stating that it is Nyumba ya Wazee . It is very unfortunate because it was stated by the Minority Leader on the Floor of the House. I do not know why the Speaker of the National Assembly would allow the Senate to be discussed in bad faith, especially when the report on bicameral Houses of Parliament was being debated yesterday. Under Article 93 of the Constitution, all of us are Members of Parliament (MPs). I do not know why Members of the National Assembly feel threatened with the existence of the Senate, yet we all serve “Wanjiku”. We are serving one Kenya. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you supported us and we passed the legislation into law. I appeal to Members of both Houses to have mutual respect for each other. Sometimes we think that the National Assembly--- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, having presided ably today in the afternoon, we have passed many Bills from the National Assembly. So, the disdain towards the Senate The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "should stop. I want to advise the National Assembly Minority Leader that there are much more important things to do for Kenyans than fighting the Senate or demanding that the Senate be scrapped off. We are not complaining. He stated that there is no work in the Senate, but we have a lot of work. Defending and protecting interests of the counties is not easy. It is a lot of work. Therefore, they should stop underestimating us and serve Kenyans. The National Assembly oversights the national Government. They should do their job. We have so many projects by the national Government that Members of the National Assembly should oversight. There is also the issue of the National Government- Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) that they should focus on. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am happy that you have outgrown that “Lower House,” and now you are one of the senior members of this country. On a light note, most senior people in the Government are former Senators. So, the nation takes Senators seriously, including you. Your friend, now the Deputy President, Hon. (Prof.) Kithure Kindiki, and many Cabinet Secretaries were Members of this House, although a few of them are underperforming. I agree with my colleagues that we need proper security in Meru. I know there have been cases of insecurity. We support that security should be taken seriously. We should ensure that the people of Meru enjoy peace and security in that region. Moving to this Petition by Mr. Omusundi, I want to commend him for that. While I do not have a problem that this Petition landed to the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights, with a lot of tremendous respect, the recommendations look pedestrian. I deal with numbers and they say that numbers do not lie. There is a song by Shakira. She sang one of the best songs during a previous World Cup. “Hips don’t lie” . Numbers do not lie. Can you believe that out of Kshs562.5 billion for 36 counties, we have Kshs25.423 billion since 2013 as pending bills for legal services by law firms in this country? That amount is not a true reflection. We have been asking that question several times. In the County Public Accounts Committee (CPAC) where I have served for some time, when governors appear before us, they cannot give us--- Even the Auditor-General has tried to do audits of pending bills in the counties in terms of court cases. They cannot tell you the number of court cases that they have. When you ask counties how many cases have been filed for that amount to be that huge, they cannot tell you. Can you believe that some counties have not even hired county attorneys? Under the Office of the County Attorney Act, 2020, it is clear that person should have experience of five years or be an advocate of the High Court, and has the same status as a County Executive Committee Member (CECM). We believe that when a county attorney is part of the county cabinet, they can assist in providing legal advice during meetings. Can you believe that since the Act was assented to by the President, some counties are yet to hire county attorneys? I am happy because of what is happening in Kilifi. They have a serious retinue of lawyers who work day and night. I want to challenge governors. Nandi is also on the list of shame. Funnily, the Governor of Nandi is a lawyer, yet he has been outsourcing legal services. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "In the last audit that came here, they paid Kshs34 million as legal fees, but no one knows the law firms or courts cases that Nandi County Government had. That is a way of siphoning money by Governor Sang. Where does the Kshs34 million go? This is the report of the Auditor-General. There are no law firms and number of cases given to justify the payment of Kshs34 million by the Nandi County Government to these law firms. Mr. Deputy Speaker when you go to Murang’a County, where our former Chief Whip, Sen. Governor (Dr.) Irungu Kang’ata presides, they have even upgraded Murang’a Youth Service. They are doing a good job. It is the only county that has a mobile dialysis machine. For us, every weekend we attend a number of fundraisers for medical expenses, but Governor Kang’ata has bought a mobile dialysis machine that assists patients across Murang’a County. You can see the priorities of a smart city. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I hope Sen. Veronica Maina is informing you that Governor Kang’ata has ensured there is what we call a smart city. They are putting up cabro in most of the trading centers to avoid mud during rainy seasons. It shows you that the Governor has realized that there are priorities as opposed to spending through legal expenses. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I know that after presiding over the House, you rarely get into your house before getting updates from Meru County. There was a football match yesterday where Arsenal was playing. There was also Bayern Munich and Inter Milan. I can assure you that by 9.00 p.m., it was raining in this city. Within two hours the whole city was flooded because of a poor drainage system. When you go to Gov. Kangata's county, at least there is some progress. The pending bills of Nairobi City County in legal fees, I have my numbers here, amount to Kshs21 billion. Meru County is another victim. I hope the new Governor, Gov. Reverend Isaac Mutuma, will rectify that mistake that had been committed for the last two years, where Meru knew no peace, courtesy of the former Governor, Hon. Kawira. For Nairobi City County, Kshs21.3 billion is pending legal fees. Then other day, the courts directed that Kshs1.3 billion be paid to a firm associated with Donald Kipkorir. I am not surprised that most of the governors are colluding with some of these law firms. Donald Kipkorir, who went to court, wrote on his official Twitter handle that allegedly, of the Kshs1.3 billion, the Governor of Nairobi City County, Gov. Sakaja, wanted almost a half. This is very shameful. That shows what Governor Sakaja is doing nothing."
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"content": "Yesterday, the whole City was flooded. Within two hours, the poor development record of Governor Sakaja had been exposed. Madam Temporary Speaker, you do not go away from your house beyond 6.00 p.m., but for some of us who operate at night, we had problems accessing our homes. Most of the roads were flooded due to a poor drainage system; poor development, but the The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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