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"speaker_name": "Loima, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Protas Akujah",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Can the Cabinet Secretary clarify under what circumstances the TSC can transfer five teachers from one particular school without a replacement? This has really affected most of the schools in the arid and semi-arid areas. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Cabinet Secretary, can you answer those supplementary questions?"
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"speaker_name": "Mr Julius Migos Ogamba",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. As far as I know, the TSC recruits teachers for the Ministry. The teachers are not recruited by Members of Parliament. There is a question on a teacher who graduated in 2020, and who cannot be employed because of her subject combination. I am told that teachers should have had C+ (plus) and above in Mathematics for them to get employed. I urge the Member to give us more details on that one so that we can follow up and find out what the actual problem is. We can then resolve it. One teacher per class based on the Curriculum Based Establishment (CBE) is the basis upon which teachers in primary schools are employed. Where they need more, the TSC does rationalisation every holiday. Every holiday, TSC undertakes a rationalisation exercise to determine which teachers need to be moved. Where there are more, they are moved to where there are less. Where there are less, they get more teachers so that there is a form of a balance. This is an exercise that the TSC conducts every holiday. They then recruit, replace or transfer at the time the school opens. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Mr Julius Migos Ogamba",
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"content": "The issue of teachers who have not been employed and they are reaching the age of retirement is of concern to the Government. We have indicated that to date, we have a shortfall of 98,000 teachers, and this is because of lack of budget. Should we be able to access a recruitment budget through this House, we will employ the required number of teachers through the TSC. The policy is that the TSC employs teachers who graduated earlier. The earlier ones are the ones who are supposed to be employed when the opportunities arise."
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"speaker_name": "Emuhaya, ANC",
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "What is your point of order, Hon. Milemba?"
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, it looks easier to answer the way the Cabinet Secretary is doing but, does he have any document as he talks about the budget which he has submitted to this House concerning the teachers? That is because it is in his docket. There should be a document on the teachers of 2011, 2012 and 2013, including the specific amounts that are required for those specific groups if, indeed, the matter is of great concern to the Government. Is it just hearsay that we are talking about and then we go away? We should have seen a document of demand for that particular budget. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"speaker_name": "Mr Julius Migos Ogamba",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, thank you for that question. This is a follow-up question, for which I have not brought the information with me. I will be happy to provide that information with specific requests of the amount of money that is required to particularly employ teachers who graduated earlier, so that we can cover that space. What I have on record is that we have a shortfall of 98,000 teachers that we need to employ in order to bring the number to an acceptable level. On the issue of teachers who are not able to move from urban centres, there is a policy of transfer. I do not know under what circumstances a teacher would be transferred and not move from a particular school to another. I will find out whether there are specific teachers who have not moved when they have been transferred from urban centres. We will liaise with TSC to deal with that issue. I do not know that teachers can decline to move when they have been transferred because their letters of employment indicate that they can be transferred from one school to another. It is true that there could be areas with more teachers than other areas because of some discrepancy. That is why I indicated that TSC normally undertakes a rationalisation exercise at the end of every term, during the school holidays, to ensure that proper balancing is done to also deal with issues of retirement and exit of service through natural attrition, among others. Hon. Speaker, on the specific issue of transferring of five teachers from one school without replacing them, we need to respond to it based on the circumstances of the case. It could be that it relates to rationalisation – a situation where there may have been more teachers than the school required. If we get the specific details, we will respond to it specifically. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Yes, Mama Trans Nzoia."
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"speaker_name": "Trans Nzoia County, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Lilian Siyoi",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I am dissatisfied with the answer given by the Cabinet Secretary to Hon. Omboko’s question. If it is true that during the recruitment the TSC considers teachers’ years of registration, we would not be having teachers who are nearing the retirement age without having been employed. I do not know the measures the Cabinet Secretary is going to put in place to deal with that specific matter. Honestly speaking, we have teachers who are almost reaching the retirement age, but they are yet to be employed. We have even changed the school curriculum. I do not even think that in the next few years, they will be employed. I wish the Cabinet Secretary could consider employing all the teachers who are approaching retirement age so that they can also benefit for the few remaining years. Thank you. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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