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"content": "You have made your point. Hon. Members, I want us to stop here on this matter so that we give the Prime Cabinet Secretary a chance. I am not expecting him to go to your villages to deal with the issue the way you are asking. He is to give us a broad and clear policy direction. Eventually, he will bring that report to this House for you to debate, analyse, and give it a force of law as it is required under the Constitution."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I think you have literally The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "summarised the position quite effectively. Let me just repeat somethings to flag out and convey my acknowledgment of the very important points raised by Members. One, this policy came into effect in 1969. That was the first time. It was done through the Directorate of Personnel Management that was in the Office of the President (OP) those days. Subsequently, along the way, the Chief Registrar of the Judiciary gazetted or, at least, released a circular to designate 21 areas as hardship areas. Perhaps because there was no cohesion or interaction. Separately, the Ministry of Education gazetted a provision for teachers in 1997. Clearly, there was no co-ordination. The report I have talked to elaborately, this afternoon, acknowledges this fact. When you look at the composition of the people who participated in the review process, all the critical ones were brought together. They include representatives from the Teachers Service Commission, trade unions, the Judiciary, the civil service, SRC and others. We are on the right path to bring harmony in this issue. What we are debating now is the procedure and process which we will use to achieve it. Now, it is important that this House, that ultimately anchors everything into law and allocates national resources, gets a full view of where we are going and how we want to proceed. Hon. Speaker, I will not go into the full list. Hon. Members will note that the much awaited document is Appendix I attached to the response to the Question. Once the document is shared out, I hope they will notice it."
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"content": " The issues that you have raised are weighted by the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics. I do not want to break down all of them but the core areas are: 1. Food unavailability and inaccessibility. 2. Water availability and inaccessibility. 3. Transport and communication services. 4. Access to social services such as schools and hospitals. 5. Climatic conditions which are broken down to the specific different climates mentioned. 6. Security and other threats, including human-wildlife conflict, cattle rustling and banditry. All these factors are in the weighted document. Even the Budget document that has been brought to our notice by Hon. Speaker has gone through the Cabinet and then it has been presented to Parliament. It has the final view of the whole Budget. Equally, it is important for the Cabinet to look at this document. I am fully aligned to the idea that once the Cabinet has approved it, it is important that Parliament also has a chance to review and comment on it. On this basis, we shall have a holistic approach to finding a solution and harmonise this sensitive area. We want to avoid people getting freebies. This is where areas that do not deserve to be categorised as hardship masquerade as hardship areas. We do not want to have a situation where areas that have significantly changed as a result of devolution and economic prosperity from hardship areas to very well-developed areas continue to benefit. We are looking for fairness and equity across board. During the implementation of devolution aspect, we focused on the Equalisation Fund to specifically help in intervening in some of these areas. Hon. Speaker, with your permission, this has been a very important engagement. As we look at the future, we need to be conscious that resources are scarce. The ones that are there must be used and distributed effectively and fairly to all deserving Kenyans wherever they may be. That is the policy direction we take."
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"content": "Hon. Millie. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I thank the Prime Cabinet Secretary for the short, but good response. He has covered the core concerns that Members have. In terms of procedure, when a policy is brought to the House, we cannot amend it. To avoid resistance by the time it is brought to the House, is there a way that we can give our input quietly? It will be brought to the House when it is a done deal. Members will talk to it, but we will not amend it. It is not like a proposed law which we can amend. I request that we have quiet consultations. As Hon. Speaker said, if you give us a chance, every Member wants their constituency to be classified as a hardship area. If we put very firm and clear criteria for hardship areas and agree quietly on the outside, even if it is through a Kamukunji, then that is what should in the Policy."
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"content": "Exactly. Prime Cabinet Secretary, what timeframe do you think we should think of in terms of when such document will be ready for our consideration? I also agree with the Whip of the Minority Party that when the document is ready, you appear before us along with other Cabinet Secretaries who are under your supervision such as the ones who are in charge of public service, education, and the Attorney- General to represent the Judiciary. I can conduct a Kamukunji, an informal sitting, where we can have input from Members and responses from the Cabinet Secretary can enrich the document. Given an opportunity, each of my Members here wants an enclave of their constituencies to be called a hardship area."
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