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"content": "He raised concern about plans to privatise mills in his area as well. As you know, the public mills, including Nzoia, Chemilil and Muhoroni, are all listed as part of this leasing plan. I was at home for a burial last week, and the people of Bungoma, who are largely sugarcane farmers, were very clear that they will insist on the promise that was made by the Head of State when he was campaigning. That when it comes to Nzoia Sugar, the Government will invest in upgrading the machinery to improve efficiency, but they will not be leasing this sugar plant out or sell it to any third party. Prof. Anyang’-Nyong’o cited a few reasons as to why he was objecting the leasing of Chemilil and Muhoroni Sugar mills. Number one, that there was ongoing litigation. He felt that there was not effective public participation, and this process is being rushed. That it has been undertaken in an opaque nature. In fact, he listed the companies; that Chemilil Sugar Company is supposed to be leased to Kibos Sugar Company and Muhoroni Sugar Company is supposed to be leased to a company called West Valley Sugar. There are rumours that this company is associated with a Member of this House. I hope that when he contributes, he will declare that interest, as we passed a Bill in this House on conflict of interest. Hon. Speaker, because this is a matter of grave national concern, we want to be clear as leaders in this country that we do not necessarily oppose everything that is proposed. However, it is a constitutional imperative to carry the people along, so that they understand they are the biggest stakeholders. Number two, if you are leasing out the sugar mills, and the person is not interested in reviving the mills, but is only after the land owned by that particular sugar plant, there is going to be a problem. Nzoia Sugar has the biggest nucleus and the people of Bungoma will not allow that land to be taken because they consider it their land. It is only held in trust for them. Hon. Khalwale, the last time we had a plan to privatise these sugar mills, we came together as leaders and agreed that there would be no privatisation without involvement of the local community. Please, all we are calling for is to follow the constitutional imperative and Article 10 to involve our people to allow---"
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"content": " Senator for Nandi County, proceed."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, let me pick from where Sen. Sifuna left. I would like to say this. Nandi is also part of the conversation we are having about privatization and leasing of sugar mills such as Chemelil Sugar Company Limited, West Kenya Sugar Factory and also those in Kericho. What we are calling for is accountability, public participation and dispensation of court processes that are already in place. It will be nice to engage. I am willing to sit there the way we did with the Oparanya Report on sugarcane reforms that gave birth to the Sugar Act. We are willing to sit and have that conversation for the betterment of farmers in Kenya. I request the Government not to be in a hurry because there will be a lot of legal hurdles that might affect this process. I know the Government gave sugarcane farmers some bonus. However, we need to have a conversation to make sure that process is concluded. Secondly, on the report by the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare, we passed a one-off honorarium for former councilors. The Chairperson of the Committee on The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Labour and Social Welfare has not given us a headway on what will happen to the one- off honorarium that was supposed to be given to former councilors, yet they served this nation at a time when they were being given tokens of appreciation. It would have been nice for the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare to give us a way forward. On the issue of labour mobility and creation of opportunities, we have had flying accusations from one place to another. I would like the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare to give us the status, so that we do not only hear the story from one side by the Cabinet Secretary for Labour and Social Protection. We need to be told the numbers and how our young people are getting access to opportunities sourced by the Government, so that we stop accusations where some Members of this House engage in unnecessary altercation with Members of the Executive. Let us be given the status about labour mobility, so that it becomes easy. We need to know the number of Kenyans in diaspora. That includes those in Dubai and other places. Finally, Mr. Speaker, Sir, on the issue of Talanta Sports City Stadium and a number of stadiums across the country, the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare should give us status and tell us how the stadiums are being taken care of. Talanta Sports City Stadium and Moi International Sports Centre Kasarani are taking shape. The Committee on Labour and Social Welfare should give us the status so that it becomes easy. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support all the statements that have been presented today. I thank you."
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"content": " Next is Sen. Osotsi."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to also weigh in on the Statement by Sen. Omtatah regarding leasing of sugar companies and privatization. This is a weighty matter, particularly for people from western region where I come from. People are concerned about the plan to lease Nzoia Sugar Company particularly. We did not have adequate stakeholder engagement and also public participation. The process was done opaquely. Even if the Government has good intentions on doing something, can they involve the people and leaders of that region, instead of just waking up and saying they want to lease Nzoia Sugar Company? This Statement is an eye-opener. I want to urge the committee where it will be directed, to handle it with speed, so that our people get justice because the speed at which the whole process is being undertaken is sending a lot of negative signals to our people. On the second issue of privatization, I am among the people who believe that privatization is not the solution to the problem we are having in the sugar industry. Mumias Sugar Company was doing well before privatization. When we used to have a management agency called Booker Tate, they were doing so well. The problems started increasing upon privatization of Mumias Sugar Company, where the management could not listen to anyone. We had the former Managing Director (MD) who was also a governor somewhere. I do not want to mention the name. He used to come here and even refused to talk to committees because the company was privatized. That is how the company started going down. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "The solution is not in privatization of sugar companies. It is in the Government looking for a strategic manager. I wonder why the Government keeps interfering with the sugar industry. Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale is here. In Mumias, Sarrai has made that company to work. When things are working, we want to destroy them. That guy is working well. He has made smoke to be seen and some former workers are back to work. Now you want to take part of the company to another person---"
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"content": "(Sen. Osotsi’s microphone went off)"
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Murango."
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"content": "Bw. Spika, nami ningependa kuongezea maoni yangu kuhusu Taarifa iliyoletwa na Sen. Omtatah. Vile vile katika gazeti hilo, Kiwanda cha Mchele cha Mwea kimeorodheshwa kama mojawapo ya viwanda ambavyo vinafaa kubinafsishwa."
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