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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we attended Jamhuri Day celebrations in Hola Stadium. The Governor, County Commissioner and I were there. While there, a most interesting thing happened. After the performances by our incredible traditional dancers - very nice dancing by the women and even some of our communities living in Tana River - a lady leading one of a nicely performing traditional dance group held the microphone and I quote what she said: “Sisi hatutaki kutumiwa vibaya. Mamboya kulipwa 5,000 hatutaki. Tunataka kila kikundi kilipwe 20,000.” In interpretation, they The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "were making it clear that they want to be paid Kshs20,000 for the performances per group and not Kshs5,000 because it is exploitative. The Master of Ceremonies (MC) took the nod from there. As he was making his announcements and whatever, he said: “Bw. Gavana, hata sisi ma-MCs msitusahau.” Those who perform as MCs and traditional dancers are creatives. They said that they are being exploited, but they need to be given a proper rating card. This Bill is an answer to those concerns and I am happy to be the one seconding it. It is a practical thing because I have seen it happen. As you all know, what we normally do is to join traditional dancers, dance with them and give them some money. That is not sustainable to the creative economy in our counties. We need to do something about it. How do we rate traditional dancers and how much do we pay them? How do we rate our MCs and how much do we pay them? How do we rate our local Deejays and how much do we pay them? How do we rate our acrobatic dancers when they come to dance before us and how much do we pay them? What about those who have the ability to make drums speak to us? The drums are beaten in such a way that you feel sad or happy. The drums are able to communicate. How much do we rate those creatives and how much do we pay them? In our community, we have what we call ngware songs. That is a very emotional kind of singing. I happen to be a patron of that group. This is not for young people, but those who are old. People sit throughout the night and sing in a certain way. They sing about their old achievements like how they met what you call your grandmother. They speak about days of valour like how they went to hunt crocodiles and hippos and how they fought in tribal wars. They speak about those great and mighty days like how the land was so beautiful and how it used to produce a lot. The fish were not as small as they are now. They speak about what used to come out of the land. The food was a lot and coconuts were bigger. Ngware songs are not written; they are passed from generation to generation. Those are creatives. How do we pay them? This Bill is an answer to what we have been experiencing within our counties and what needs to be addressed now. This is a good attempt at creating a system that will recognise creatives and make it possible for them to earn a living from what they do best. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, creative economies are not restricted to our counties and in Kenya alone. In Europe, they are known as cultural economies. Some refer to them as cultural industries. In Latin America, they are known as the orange economy. Here, we refer to them as the creative economy. This Bill is about supporting the creative economy. What are we going to do to make people reasonable earnings from the creative economy? This is a good Bill. I also want to thank those who have started doing something even without any form of legislation. What Citizen Television does through the Skiza Tunes is that they use songs by artists who tell people to subscribe because it is good for them as an industry. We want to pay tribute to those who have gone before, those who are doing something and those who are helping our creatives to start earning money. Some of the stations like"
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"content": "have started to show the way. This law is a good step because it will crystalize the thinking behind helping our people to earn a living in a legitimate way."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the statistics say that in Kenya, the creative economy is a vibrant and growing sector that contributes five per cent to the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Kenya, and it is creating many jobs. There are many young people who are earning a living just because they are able to tap into their talent, do something and earn a living from their innovation. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this Bill has proposed many things and one of the things that I like is the creation of a specific fund. Towards the end of the Bill, there is a very good Fund that has been created and it might be the answer. Under Part Three of the Bill and the proposed Clause 20, there is the established Creatives Fund, which shall consist of monies that may be appropriated to the Fund by Parliament, grants, donations, bequests or other gifts made to the Fund. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, once this Creatives Fund is established, it is going to help many artists and creatives within our counties, to come up and support themselves, even as they wait for their songs to become a hit, and as their days of becoming matured actors are continuing. This Fund will help our creatives with the purchase of musical instruments, equipment for production and distribution of creative works. This Creatives Fund is a wonderful innovation. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, back in Tana River County, we have young men and women who are so talented, and every year, they have an annual festival where, they come together from all over the county. However, they have a constant request; they need equipment, a studio to record and production equipment. This Creatives Fund will help answer these questions that are faced by our people. When this Bill becomes law, our people, who are in the creative industry, will be able to access the Creatives Fund, which will assist them to grow their talent. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Board that is created is the one that is given the responsibility to issue out the monies in this Creatives Fund, in forms of grants to persons in the creative industries, in accordance with a criteria determined by the Cabinet Secretary, by regulations. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is where I would like Sen. Eddy to pay attention. There is need, when we are doing the regulations, we do not leave it to the Cabinet Secretary alone. The Cabinet Secretary needs to be guided in the creation of the rules on how to disburse these funds, that, these funds will be disbursed to all the counties. That requirement needs to go into law, so that the Cabinet Secretary does not disburse only to the county where he comes from. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it has become fashionable nowadays for a Cabinet Secretary to stand up and chest-thump that the monies that they have control or access to are doing development in their rural economies. This is why there is need to look at Clauses 20 and 21, so that the Cabinet Secretary who is in charge of the Creatives Fund, will be guided to know that if he has disbursed funds to Machakos County, he should also disburse funds to creatives in Tana River, Marsabit and Samburu counties. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if this is not done, we might have a situation where the Cabinet Secretary only disburses funds to people within the big cities and counties. You will be hearing that it is Nairobi City, Mombasa, Nakuru, Kisumu and Eldoret, The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "which are getting these funds to the neglect of the creatives who are found within our other counties. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if you look at the other very well-thought-out creation within this Bill. That is why I am seconding this Bill. The Cabinet Secretary is supposed to develop Act a credit guarantee scheme for all these artists under this Act. This credit guarantee scheme will allow these creatives, for instance, within Tana River County to be able to, within the scheme, walk into Equity Bank in Hola and present a case and be able to be given money, so that they can build their studio, purchase equipment for photography and production so that this credit guarantee scheme allows proper growth of talent within our counties. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, there is a board that is created called the Board of the Guild under Clause 8. It says- “The Cabinet Secretary shall, in appointing the persons, take into account that no more than two-thirds shall come from one gender.” When we are making law in this Senate, we should be county sensitive. The Cabinet Secretary here must also be sensitized to the fact that when he is appointing the members of this Board, they should be spread across the counties. It is not just a matter of two-thirds being from one gender. Rather, they should be spread across the counties, so that we do not have five Board members coming from one or two particular areas. We want the Board membership to be able to spread across the counties where necessary. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, finally as I sit, I would like to particularly comment that there is a requirement on the national and county governments under Clause 3, that they must make the fund accessible to people with disability, who are in the creative industry. In Tana River County, we have a young man called Kasuku, who is blind, but has been able to entertain our people through his music and his capacity to make people laugh when he speaks on the microphone. He is able to imitate presidents and important personalities to the joy of every crowd that he goes before. However, he does not have the kind of funding that is required for him to grow. Under this law, there is a special provision that has been made for people with disability to be given access to funds, so that they can develop their talents. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I really commend this law. In my opinion, this Bill is a first step towards giving a step to our growing industry within the creative industry, and it is a good thing. The Senate should support it and all of us should speak with one voice on this. With those remarks, I beg to second. I thank you."
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