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            "content": "amount each county receives, they get that money back to develop that county? Why is it that only 10 counties are receiving the court fines? Secondly, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, and I wish the Chairperson of the Senate Committee of Finance and Budget was here. I have not seen the royalties from minerals. We produce a lot of gold in Narok County. Why have we not received the money from royalties? The only thing you are giving Narok County is money to pay the Community Health Promoters, which is little, around Kshs49 million, and Kshs21 million in arrears to pay their doctors. Where is our money when it comes to the royalties? The Chinese and other people who subscribe to that arena of mining are trooping Narok County. They are in Loita Hills illegally. They are in the border of Narok and Migori counties in Transmara District. Sometimes while going through the news, you find that the company Kilimapesa, which is mining in Narok County, is listed in the London Stock Exchange. You also hear that they have discovered a huge piece of gold, which costs a lot of money. Where is our money? Those are the things that we ask. That is why I want to beseech all of us here, that, when we are here, we continue fighting for our counties to get this money. So that we do not delay this, let us do away with this RMLF. If we cannot send RMLF to our counties, let us put it aside and develop another piece of legislation to work on just that RMLF. Some of us feel like we should not have the Kenya Urban Roads Authority (KURA) and that, that money should go to the counties. However, today, we are sending this money, in May, yet the financial year is coming to an end in June, because of our sibling rivalry between the National Assembly and the Senate. Really, are we not just joking? There is nothing we are doing here. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as I support this, I hope that all of us can be comprehensive in terms of looking at this document and see how much is going to your county. If there is any mining in Bomet, Kericho, Migori and Narok counties, they should get royalties. Unfortunately, we are not getting that money. Every county should get court fines, unless you are telling us that Narok County courts should never charge any court fines. Then we will be fine. If it is crime which is being committed, it is being committed in Narok County. We have no street lights, because it costs so much to be able for our county government to pay for the street lights. That fine can help us offset that expense. So, as I support this, in my opinion, we should not be in a rush just to pass it. We should ask questions. The Senate Committee on the Finance and Budget should try to advocate, and encourage equity. I know we can never be equal, but some form of equity would help us. We are fighting for devolution, but we cannot say that when people of Narok County commit crimes and the courts in Narok charge fees, it should only support people in Nairobi City County. Nairobi City County should collect the money from their courts and use it. I urge the Senate Majority Leader that this is a matter that we need to sit down and think about. Otherwise, I support."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Wakili Sigei",
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            "content": " The Hon. Sen. Samson Cherarkey, please proceed. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I will make my comments in five minutes. Before I make a comment, allow me, on my behalf and that of my family, and on behalf of the great people of Nandi County, to pass my deepest condolences to the family of the late Father Alois Cheruiyot Bett, who was unfortunately killed in Tot area. He was the parish priest of St. Matthias Mulumba Parish in Tot, Elgeyo, Marakwet County. I condole with the family, the Catholic Diocese of Eldoret, led by Bishop Dominic Mengich, the Catholic Church, and the entire region, especially Nandi County and Kilibwoni Area. I hope justice will not only be done to him, but also to his family and all of us, so that we know who the killers are. I would like to assure the people of Nandi County and the family that I will not sit until justice is done following the killing of Father Alois Cheruiyot Bett, who was unfortunately killed by criminals. I hope peace will return to Kerio Valley. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the second point that I would like to make is that I am surprised that in Nandi County, we have Karebe Gold Mining Limited. Mines. Some of the owners of Karebe Gold Mining Limited are based in Germany and Britain, yet there are no royalties that Nandi County has gotten. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, are you aware that Karebe Gold Mining Limited is listed in the United States of America (USA), that they are paying $200 million. However, we are not seeing that on the principle of local content, 50-20-10. It is not here. I, therefore, would like to challenge the Chairperson of the Senate Committee on Finance and Budget that, it is not fair to the people of Chemelil, Chemase, Tinderet and the great people of Nandi, because we have gold. The Senate Majority Leader, if you are not aware, I will organize a visit, so that you see where we have gold at the Karebe gold mines."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
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                "legal_name": "Aaron Kipkirui Cheruiyot",
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            "content": " I know."
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            "content": "I am happy he knows. They are paying Kshs200 million on tax to the Keya Revenue Authority (KRA). Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we need to be told why we are getting zero. I do not know if Migori County has minerals, but imagine Narok County has no royalties. I have seen it in Kakamega though. Where is the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget? We must be told. Secondly, we are saying that the gold mines of Nandi must benefit the people of Nandi. The people of Narok must benefit. They must benefit the people of Kakamega and Migori counties and we must see. Therefore, I want to challenge all these mining royalties. I support this. We must look at the issue of mining royalties, otherwise we will move to other forums to pursue justice. On the issue of court fines, why would you fine people in Kapsabet and give it to Nairobi? We are not being fair. Let the court fines that we get in Nandi County be used in Nandi and the ones from Nyamira be used in Nyamira. Let the people in Nairobi City County use their court fines to do their things. We cannot get zero."
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                "legal_name": "Sifuna Edwin Watenya",
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            "content": "On a point of information, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for the first time, I can allow Sifuna to inform me."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Wakili Sigei",
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            "content": " Sen. Cherarkey, the Chair has not allowed Sen. Sifuna to inform you. Now that you want to allow him to inform you, Sen. Sifuna, please proceed to inform Sen. Cherarkey."
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            "content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, I just wanted to inform the Senator for Nandi County that the people of Nairobi City County do not get an allocation for court fines imposed in Nandi. If you look at the schedule here, every county has a specified figure for the amount that comes from the national Government, which is collected as court fines in the specific county. So, please, do not make it appear like we take money from courts outside the Nairobi City County. The Nairobi allocation is for courts in the Nairobi City County and there is a unique situation in Nairobi where we agreed with the Judiciary that the city courts here will be manned and managed by the County Government of Nairobi City County and that all the fines that are collected there should go back to the people of Nairobi. The problem, Sen. Cheruiyot--- Oh no, Sen. Cherarkey. I think they are the same people."
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                "legal_name": "Aaron Kipkirui Cheruiyot",
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            "content": " On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir."
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