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"content": "We are just agreeing on the need to have more consultation."
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"content": " Then do not dwell on the merits and demerits."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I am simply giving reasons why we need to consult more. I thank you."
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"content": " Thank you. Next is Sen. Mandago."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I wish to add my voice on this matter. I agree with colleagues that we need time to ventilate on this matter. Since we did not discuss the matters to conclusion in our kamkunji, these being important and urgent matters as we go towards the end of the financial year and a new financial year will be beginning, I believe the decision of this House will affect the performance of The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "counties in the next financial year. I would request the leadership of this House to consider if it could be possible for us to have the kamukunji on Thursday, so that we can conclude on this matter. In the following week before we break for recess, we should be able to debate and adopt the allocation of revenues to counties. Madam Temporary Speaker, this is critical. I agree with Sen. Aaron Cheruiyot, the Senate Majority Leader, that for the 11 counties, unless the allocation reaches a minimum of Kshs6 billion, we might not see any meaningful development in those counties. There can be arguments that those counties are small. However, take an example of Elgeyo-Marakwet or a Lamu County. For the people of Lamu County to cross the ocean to be on the island, they have unique challenges and that is why they qualify to be a county. To construct a one-kilometre road in Elgeyo Marakwet County, a county that is 98 per cent hills and valleys, would cost close to Kshs5 million, while to construct one kilometre of road in Uasin Gishu will cost a maximum of Kshs1.5 million. So, Madam Temporary Speaker, it is critical that this kamukunji happens the soonest, so that we are able to discuss and dispense all of this matter. This being an ‘upper’ House, which easily agrees because we are a House of reasonable men and women, I think with a kamukunji we should be able to resolve these matters."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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"content": " Thank you, Sen. Mandago. Sen. Mungatana Danson, please proceed."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana, MGH",
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, in Tana River County, in our Pokomo custom, we say that if you sharpen a panga, you are likely to bring down the tree in a shorter time. If you take time to sharpen your knife properly, you will skin a crocodile in the shortest time possible. Similarly, if we take time to negotiate outside this formality and hear what in our custom we say, “listening to the stomachs of each other”, loosely translated, it means you are feeling what that person is saying on the other side, negotiation, will help us to sharpen our thinking and when we come here, we will skin the crocodile and fell the tree without a problem. We will agree. However, if we try to rush, there will be a lot of acrimony which we do not want. Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to support that we take more time."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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"content": " Thank you. Let us have Sen. Mundigi on the Floor and thereafter, Sen. Roba respond. After which, we shall close the matter."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Munyi Mundigi",
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"content": "Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda. Hata mimi, naunga mkono. Sio mambo ya kupigania kelele, wala kukosana. Walakini, ni jambo ya kuja pamoja na"
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