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"content": "Embu County ni mojawapo ya kaunti nyingi zilizotajwa hapa. Ni maombi yangu kuwa wakati tutakapokaa pamoja tuelewane na kaunti zote zipewe shilingi bilioni sita halafu mambo ya kuelewana ianze hapo. Hii ni njia mojawapo ya kuinua kaunti kutoka kwa ule mgawo wa pesa kwa sababu tunajua wakati devolution ilianza, kulikuwa na mazungumzo ya kuwa kaunti ambazo hazikuwa zinajiweza zipewe hela nyingi. Ni maombi yangu kaunti zote zielewane ili uchumi wao uimarike. Kwa hivo, kama Seneta wa Embu County, naomba tuweze kuelewana ili tulete kaunti zote 47 pamoja kimaendeleo. Tuanze na mgao wa shilingi bilioni sita kwa kila The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "kaunti. Kwa hivo, mimi, Seneta wa Embu, Alexander Munyi Mundigi, naunga mkono mambo ya kuelewana. Asante."
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"content": " Thank you. Sen. Ali Roba, please proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Having listened to the input of my colleagues and the wisdom to consult more, I believe that there is no harm in us consulting."
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"content": "My brother, Sen. Olekina, is rudely interrupting me. I have just listened to my colleagues. There is no harm in consulting. The only issue I want to share, which is very critical, is that, first, I propose we have another consultative meeting. A breakfast meeting here in the Chamber on Tuesday morning at 8.00 a.m. We will go through the whole process again. Secondly, hon. Senators, all the documents we presented are in our gadgets. I want to request that between now and that Tuesday, please, thoroughly familiarise yourself or request for a printout of the presentation we did. By the time we are coming to engage, you have also thoroughly familiarised yourself with this engagement. The last issue that I want to request is, please, if we are rescheduling our moving of the Motion today to create consultation time, then let us commit to making sure that hon. Senators turn up on time on Tuesday and they stay through until we make sense of what we are discussing. The challenge we have is that we will reschedule and come for Tuesday breakfast meeting, maybe a few people would have turned up for that engagement and then when we come to moving the Motion, people will say we still need to get more engagement time. You must commit to coming on that Tuesday at 8.00 o’clock. You must also have thoroughly familiarised yourself with the report of the committee and what we presented and you must also sit in to the logical conclusion. This is a very critical function of the Senate, for us to get the Fourth Basis of Revenue Sharing formula that is least controversial and generally acceptable to everybody. I am sure we cannot get a formula that is perfect for Mandera County, Narok or Kitui, but we can carry in a less harmful approach in terms of what we are proposing. I beg to support the discussion that has come forth. There is no harm in our brother Sen. Olekina also giving us a one-minute input before you can guide further."
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"content": " Sen. Ali Roba, since you have donated one minute, I will give Sen. Olekina the one minute, so that I can give direction and we proceed."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I just thought that I must remind the House that during the last revenue formula debate, we benefited a lot by engaging our budget office here as well as the Commission on Revenue Allocation (CRA). The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "The reason I am saying that all of us need to be on part and parcel and also understand the science behind this revenue formula, is so that when we are sitting here, we do not go through the 11 Motions like we did the last time. Madam Temporary Speaker, I would like to seek your indulgence, in as far as the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget is inviting all the Senators. In my view, it is important. Just listen to my two cents. The Senators need to understand this scientifically. Some of us are talking about population, others are talking about poverty and there is also a basis. Not all of us understand this. I truly understand because I went through it. Sen. Wambua also went through it in the last Parliament. So, having all of us sit here and debate, others might even trivialise the matter or might just make it as simple as my county needs X amount of money. In the last debate, there was one county; it did not matter whether you denied that county money, it was still gaining. This is a county of Sen. Cherarkey. That county is still gaining. We were shocked. Why was it that whatever formula we came up with the county continued gaining?"
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