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"content": "In closing, I think the Vice-Chairman alluded that we must call on this Commission to ensure they work towards completely professionalising our police service. Yesterday, the Cabinet Secretary in charge of Interior and National Security, pronounced himself on a number of reforms within the National Police Service. Part of those reforms must be implemented and their implementation is supervised by the National Police Service Commission. I want to call on these nominees, as they join the Commission to ensure that these reforms are fully implemented. That, they professionalise our police service and support our police officers."
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"content": "As Hon. Raso has said and I know he came from the uniformed forces. These are men and women who give their lives in service to our nation. In other jurisdictions and many of you who travel outside see it, those who have served in the military or police forces are accorded very high respect, even in retirement or when still in service. When you go to the United States (US), they do not even queue in banks or at airports. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Why do we not treat our servicemen and women with the same honour and dignity? Yet, we expect the same in return. If we expect to be treated with courtesy, honour and respect by uniformed officers, let us also treat them with the same respect and honour that comes with the offices they serve in. These are the officers who salute you and me and everybody else, as we pass them in the streets. Many of us never bother to take time to even know how they are doing. They are Kenyans like other Kenyans. Hon. Deputy Speaker, in as much as, we condemn excessive use of force by any officer, whatever happens in our country where the rule of law is at the core of its operations is something that this House must pay attention to. In spite of the sad happenings of the death of Albert Ojwang’, I must commend the police for doing their work to ensure that those responsible are brought to book. That is how civilised nations and democracies work. You allow investigative agencies to do their work and take action against those involved in any breach of the law. It is not all officers, but a few. Even in this House, we are not all angels; many of us have our own shortcomings. Therefore, in every institution, even within the police service, there are officers who will have excesses. The law must be allowed to take its course. However, that must never be a justification for members of the public to take the law into their own hands, if an officer or two does not meet their expectations. This would be courting disaster and chaos in the country. I have seen activists in the streets, taunting policemen; an armed police officer and you are touting them? I must take this opportunity to commend that officer in Nakuru, who was being taunted with a"
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"content": ". His life or that of other Kenyans would have been at risk, but he maintained his cool. That is the kind of spirit we want to see. We must also speak to our people to treat our policemen and women with respect, honour and the dignity that they deserve. It is said that if you want to know the cost of education, try ignorance. If you want to know the cost of chaos, withdraw the police from the streets and allow everybody to roam and do what they want to - whether they are picketing or are mobilised looters. In the recent past, what is being described as demonstrations are organised groups of goons. I heard a leader shamelessly purport that even the cars that were burnt last week, were nowhere in the register of vehicles at the National Transport and Safety Authority (NTSA). I want to dare the former Deputy President, it is okay to go and incite people on vernacular radio. However, you must have the decency to adduce evidence of every allegation and claim that you make. Otherwise, you continue to exhibit the sort of ignorance that you served with in office, even when you are out of office. Kenyans witnessed those cars being burned down. It only took me five minutes to zoom in, look at the number plate and check the owners at the NTSA. One of the cars belongs to a security company. The officers in the escort car are allowed to use brutal force to protect what they are escorting and most of the time, it is cash in transit. They did not know why people were stopping them in the streets when on transit with cash. If you saw the video clips, the officers fired in the air to scare the people who were blocking the van that was transporting the valuables, and they were able to sail through. Unfortunately, the one that had unarmed officers ended up being torched. I want to appeal to members of the public, not to taunt our officers. Let us not throw our hands at them. I have seen people just brandishing their hands at officers and some restrain themselves. It is not every day you come across an officer who will be able to restrain themselves. Therefore, let us conduct ourselves in a dignified way when we want to picket. When we want to protest, let us do it in a way that we are not provoking these officers and those who are running businesses in our towns. This chaos comes with a huge cost to business people, especially those in the Central Business District (CBD) who lost their property last year and this year. May I dare say, as I said here, that you will find many people causing and mobilising chaos are not in pursuit of The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "justice. Some have not even had the decency and courtesy to say pole to Mzee Ojwang’ and the family of the deceased young man from Homa Bay. They will want to use his name for politics, and mobilise all manner of shenanigans. In conclusion, I support these names, despite there being only one man. These are very able officers who will serve this Commission. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I support."
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"content": "Hon. Members, because we have very important business to transact, I would like to close this Motion so that we can move to the next business. As a woman leader, it would not be right for me not to correct your Report. I propose that you change it to read that “Ms Peris Muthoni Kimani has served with distinction in the police forces, including in hardship areas”, that is a nicer way. If you must mention her gender, I would have preferred if you said, “as one of the few women in the police force at the time, Ms Peris Muthoni Kimani served diligently including in hardship areas, demonstrating her resilience and commitment”. Thank you. You want to speak? I will give the first chance to Hon. Kaluma."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I know all the nominees. I know Madam Peris Muthoni Kimani, a lady who has risen from very humble beginnings and served up to very high echelons of the security apparatus. I also know Benjamin Imai, I worked with him in the security sector when serving in this Committee since 2013. He is a very capable man who will ably serve in this important Commission. Additionally, Madam Collette A. Suda was a sociology lecturer at the University of Nairobi for a very long time. She is an amazing lady who has served previously as a Principal Secretary (PS) in the Ministry of Education and a Chief Administrative Secretary (CAS). I know them all. I want to emphasis that we have a team of nominees here who will perform the functions and roles of the National Police Service Commission (NPSC). This Commission has four main roles under the Constitution: recruitment, transfer, promotion and control over the processes of discipline of police officers. Seeing their orientation and where they come from - Ms Peris is from the Kenya Police, Benjamin Imai is from the Administration Police, and of course, Collette A. Suda from the public, having been a sociology lecturer, this is a great team. Allow me to also emphasis one point which has been spoken to by the Leader of the Majority Party. In this country, we have the best Bill of Rights. We must allow our people to enjoy those provisions in our human rights and fundamental freedoms to the full. We need to remind all Kenyans and foreigners in this country, that we can only enjoy those fundamental freedoms and human rights within the confines of the Constitution and the law. We need to underline the fact that ultimately, we need a stable state. I was very sad when I saw a video of a person, now confirmed to be a foreigner, wielding a panga at our police officers on the main street in Nakuru. He was wielding the"
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"content": "and charging at the police officers who were armed. He was sharpening the panga on the tarmac as he walked. Such an individual is lucky because of the richness of our Bill of Rights. In the country he comes from, which I hear is Uganda, I do not think he would have reached with that panga on the streets. We must avoid situations where we over-provoke our police officers. These police officers are almost at the level where they will be saying they will sit back and let people do as they wish. That will be the birth of chaos and anarchy. The other day when we were discussing the Budget, I saw a young Kenyan lady from Western, an activist who has been performing remarkably well. There were more than six police officers, all armed, present to control the demonstration. I do not know if Members have watched that video. The girl charged at a police officer and pulled her neck. That is not acceptable. Shortly thereafter, you would have seen what a law and order officer in the United States stated: “If you abuse our police officers, you will go to jail, but you will first pass through The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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