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"speaker_name": "Marakwet East, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kangogo Bowen",
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"content": " Firstly, Hon. Temporary Chairman, as much as we support our colleagues on the other side, the Senators, there is a provision of Kshs500 million in this Budget for the Senate Oversight Fund (SOF). If you read the Constitution, as Members of Parliament, we also play the oversight role, but we do not have such funds. Secondly, the Senators are more focused on what is happening in the National Assembly, thus forgetting that they are supposed to oversee the county governments. There is a lot of wastage and corruption in the county governments, but we have not seen the Senators talk about it and yet, that is what they are supposed to be doing. In spite of having the Ksh500 million, there is very little to be seen and, therefore, I oppose the SOF. It should be scrapped."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Chairman",
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"content": " Hon. Kaluma."
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"speaker_name": "Homa Bay Town, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I wanted to propose that a sum of Ksh500 million be deducted from this money. This is money that has been put in this Vote to cater for something called the Senate Oversight Fund."
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"speaker_name": "Homa Bay Town, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": "Under Article 240 of the Constitution, as read together with the Salaries and Remuneration Commission Act, the pay or salary remuneration of any public officer is to enable them to discharge their roles. Members of Parliament, whether in the Senate or in the National Assembly, have the role of oversight, representation and legislation. We cannot, therefore, be giving people ‘double pay’ without any legal framework as we speak and yet, we have bodies that require funding and are not being funded."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Chairman",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Thank you."
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"speaker_name": "Homa Bay Town, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": " I urge that you get the Chair of Budget and Appropriations to deduct the sum that has been put here as Senate Oversight before we can vote on this."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Chairman",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Hon. Baya."
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"speaker_name": "Kilifi North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Owen Baya",
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"content": " A little bit, Hon. Temporary Chairman. This is the last Vote we are doing. I want to thank you for a good job."
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"speaker_name": "Kilifi North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Owen Baya",
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"content": "On this Vote for the Senate, I want to say this, and I want the Senators to listen to me as we pass it. They should concentrate on overseeing counties. That is their job. We want counties to be properly managed. The reason we have pilferage and all those issues in the counties is because the Senate is not doing its job. They come here, massage the egos of governors, massage the egos of people who work in the counties, and we do not know what happens after that. Then we see the same issues continue as we give them money. The Senate should concentrate on their job. They were set up to oversee counties. They should stick to their job. The other issues that are national must remain in the National Assembly."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Chairman",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Thank you so much."
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