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"content": "The biggest challenge we have in this country right now, which is attributed to gambling, is mental illness. In this House, we passed a law on mental illness and how to deal with it. I have no problem with passing legislation. However, we have to discuss legislation cognizant of what is affecting or ailing our society. Right now there are so many poor people and the only thing they know how to do is to gamble for them to make money. There are people who can make Kshs1,000 in a week maybe because there are no jobs available. However, since they have been lured into a scheme of getting rich fast, they gamble all that money then end up sitting down to look at their kids at a table where they cannot eat. Gambling increases crime in a country. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Today, we have our children in this Parliament listening to us. The same children who come here to listen are the same ones we do not understand because they are from a different generation from ours. These are the Gen Z who we do not understand the language they speak. Instead of us taking the lead and guiding them, we are here discussing about amending laws and saying how good they are. One of them is gambling, but we are not teaching them."
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"content": "Although I do not associate myself with a lot of sentiments of my brother from Tana River, I like one thing that he said to the children; that we will not always tell you what we go through to wear good suits. You might look at some of us and think the person is about 60 when he is merely 20 years old. It is because they have sleepless nights. They are always up at night working because some have 10 jobs. When you come here, you find them looking smart and sharp, but you do not even know what they are suffering from."
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"content": "I want to beseech my colleagues here that it is not time for us to pass this legislation to support people who are already filthy rich because they are collecting so much money. It is time for us to think seriously about how to end all these problems, reduce crime and ensure that we create jobs for our youth, so that they do not end up in the streets."
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"content": "We are talking about these regulations when we have a devolved system of governance where the Constitution allows county governments to develop laws to collect certain taxes. Unless there is uniformity across board--- You will find some counties that are culturally sane putting a big figure to save their citizens. For others, because of business interests, they make it very cheap. You can pay even Kshs5,000 and have a gambling license. I oppose this. The exposure to the youth at a time when we are facing a lot of social issues such as joblessness should not be gambling, but working hard to make money. Our country is so good that one can only compare it with other developed nations. Even if we leapfrog, one cannot be born today then walk tomorrow. Technology has made it easy hence we do not need to go through entire the industrial revolution process for us to manage certain things. In this country, we have to remember that the industrialization process is necessary because we have 47 counties which are completely different. I oppose it. When you look across, you will realise that countries which are not stable are the ones that set up gambling websites. They lure people to gamble there. One of my colleagues spoke about this. At first, they ask people to spend some little money to get some extra money just for those people to get addicted. Before they realise, they cannot think straight. The only gambling that can be allowed in this country is that of the stock market. This is because one can see a company such as Safaricom in the stock market. Yesterday, I read somewhere that Airtel has now surpassed Safaricom in terms of customer base. When you gamble in those companies, you know that you can watch your stocks rise or go down on a daily basis, which is life. However, it is not right to put in money where you do not know if you will get money to buy a loaf of bread or even a cup of tea. I say no to that. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "With those many remarks, I completely oppose this Report. I also oppose anything to do with gambling in this country at this particular time. I will only entertain gambling in the next ten years when we will have fixed our current problems and understood each generation. I oppose."
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"content": " Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support this Motion, which is a report of the Mediation Committee that drew Members from the Senate and the National Assembly. This Report brings to a close a very difficult exercise that we have had, which was to try to rein in and bring control on a very difficult sector. This sector has been ably described by my colleagues."
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"content": "I agree with my colleagues on their prognosis. What I do not agree with is their final diagnosis which they eventually consider to be the solution. I have listened to my colleagues, Sen. Olekina and Sen. Cherarkey. While I agree with all the things they have said about gambling, I am afraid that what they are prescribing as a solution might not serve us."
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"content": "We live in very interesting times. In 2018, this Parliament or the Senate, sponsored me alongside a few of my colleagues to Colombo, Sri Lanka, for a Conference titled ‘Evidence-Based Decision Making.’ That Conference eternally changed my life. To date, as a lawmaker, I follow the evidence before making a final decision. That happens every afternoon, including yesterday. Unfortunately, in this country, we make decisions based on political affiliations or feelings without looking at what the hard facts are. That is the debate we had here yesterday where I tried to remind my colleagues who were here, Sen. Sifuna and Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. I told them that while it is long held that there are counties that are rich and counties that are poor, a better way of looking at places to be considered for affirmative action of any kind was to break them down to the lowest administrative unit, which is a sub-location, after which, we could then have a nationwide consideration."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is one such scenario as well. We agree that gambling is a menace that has messed up so many young people, families and even women. It is not just about young men. You will recall there was a time when they had put some slot machines across the country. It was an interesting spectacle to see women folk in the village trooping from their homes at about four o'clock to the centers to go and slot in the coins with the hope that they would have their luck on that particular day."
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