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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to insist and I said this to none other than the Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport, that this Kshs175 billion is not enough. We pay RMLF. Until farmers who produce and pay taxes close to Kshs50 to Kahs100 billion per year begin to see the benefits of that securitization, we cannot say it is enough. Otherwise, what will later be prudent to do is to ask that we operate like a hotel where you pay for what you have consumed."
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"content": "You cannot walk into a hotel and say that since everybody is drunk, you should contribute. If you took an expensive whisky while I am talking Konyagi, I will pay for Konyagi as you pay for the Martell that you took. What we are being invited to is further marginalisation which this Bill is speaking to, that indeed at this particular point and time in our country, we need to tell each other the truth. Since there are counties that were marginalised for the past 60 years, we provide certain funds for them to benefit, which is what this Bill is asking us to do. Let us not entrench further marginalisation even in the advent of the new Constitution."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, with those many remarks, I beg to support and hope that we will conclude on this Bill. We want 1,402 sub-locations to benefit from Kshs16.9 billion."
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"content": "I thank you."
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"content": " Proceed, Senator for Nairobi City County."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, on many occasions, I have heard the Senate Majority Leader threaten to bring a document that he happens to have seen in the Office of the Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport that shows the inequity in the distribution of road projects over the past donkey years. However, he never tables that document because not all of us have the benefit of accessing the office of the Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport."
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"content": "There is an invitation that was made here in the morning by the Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Chirchir, a person whom I respect greatly. He wanted to spend some time to explain to me the plans of the Ministry. I will politely decline that invitation. I have become very averse to conversations that are held in private. I was elected to a public space, so that everybody can see what conversation we are having in these dark areas. Members of the public also need to partake that information. Therefore, Senate Majority Leader, I encourage you that next time, please bring to us that document because we hear a lot of stories. Secondly, Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have a responsibility as the head of this House to ensure that every Senator who comes to this House gets an opportunity to travel to every corner of this country. I was in Mandera. Since I am Luhya, to be specific Bukusu, I used to believe that the sweetest meat you can have is chicken cooked by your mother. Sen. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "(Dr.) Khalwale, when I went to Mandera, there is meat that they call Nyir nyir . That is camel meat and it is extremely sweet. When I was there, I remembered the saying that if you are used to eating in your mother’s house, you will believe that she is the best cook. People need to move from their areas and see the suffering out there. An entire County of Mandera has no access to electricity, then you come here and tell us stories that your area is also marginalised. Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is a community called the Ilchamus that lives in Baringo County. I have had an occasion to go to Baringo County. Those people live outside. When it rains, they are rained on. If you see the features in the news about how people live in those places, it is despicable. Then you come and tell us stories here that your area is also marginalised. Mr. Speaker, Sir, people need to travel when you are still in this House. No wonder I support Senators who call themselves Senators of the Republic of Kenya. You are a Senator for the whole Republic. When you vote here, you are not just voting for your village. However, all these people who require you to petition on their behalf. Fortunately for me, when it was happening at the Bomas of Kenya, I was not in primary school, but at the University of Nairobi (UoN). We are the ones who were being teargassed inside the university buses by the police when we were going to protest the killing of Dr. Mbae. We started eating teargas at a very early age and we want to stop eating teargas. In future, we do not want to continue using these weapons on our children. When they were framing the Constitution, in Article 204(2), they spoke about the rationale for this Fund, which is to provide basic services, including water, roads, health facilities and electricity to marginalised areas to the extent necessary to bring the quality of those services in those areas to the level generally enjoyed by the rest of the nation as far as possible. When you start measuring marginalisation, first of all, can we agree? What is the level of these services generally enjoyed by the rest of the nation? Mr. Speaker, Sir, where I come from, we are blessed. I wish the Senator was here. In Bungoma, water comes from the ground. The people of Mandera have never experienced that phenomenon. How can I drag money for water from Mandera to Bungoma? What conscience is that? What argument would you make to justify that? There is no justification. We have the largest solar power plant in the country in Loiyangalani somewhere in Marsabit, but the people of Marsabit do not have power. They just see powers cables flying on top to Suswa in Narok, then the rest of you come and tell us that you also need money. I think we need to be serious. I do not have a problem with some of the issues that the Senate Majority Leader has said, that there was need to relook the formula before coming to the smallest possible unit. How I wish we had done that after we had helped the initial counties to benefit, so that we realise the initial objective of this particular Fund. Personally, I would have no objection. Just last week, I brought a Statement which was directed to the Committee on Energy. There are entire wards that have gone for years without electricity. There is a hospital ward in Mathare that has gone for four years without electricity. We also have The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Majengo, Kamukunji and Gorofani where people have gone for two-and-a-half years without electricity. There are also places in Embakasi South that do not have electricity. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the spirit of this is not whether you are rich or poor; the spirit is services. It is pegged on services and availability of services. If there is a road that splits Karen, where on one side there is a slum and on the other there is golf course, when you go to the same place, you use the road which is a service. What we are speaking to is access to services on a basic level. When you go to Mandera County Referral Hospital, you will find that it serves three countries. There are people who come from Ethiopia and Somalia. All of them go there. That is a county that saw the first kilometre of tarmac after we introduced devolution in 2013. People have been driving on tarmacked roads from 1960s, but there are those people who saw tarmac in 2013. That is what this particular provision has come to address. I have challenged you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. When we were campaigning in 2022, we wanted cultural exchanges. We would get people from Homa Bay who had never been past Nakuru and have them go all the way to Kirinyaga. Those people wanted to see how a potato farm looks like and the environment or weather that makes their brother’s hair grow the way it does. People need to experience other people's lives. We would take people from Mt. Kenya who have never gone past Nakuru to Bungoma. Those people would believe, if told, that Bukusus in Bungoma eat people. They had to go to my grandmother's house to see that we eat what they eat as well. I am challenging you, Mr. Speaker, that you have to make sure that Senators, in this House, travel for them to forget their mother's food. They need to see how other people live. I will give you a list with the names of those Senators. After that, they will speak here knowing that they are speaking for the entire Republic. Mr. Speaker, Sir, people are living in squalor and that is why we are talking about marginalisation. My good friend here, the Senator for Narok County, has a project that he invited me to join him in. The project is about building basic structures for the Ilchamus in Baringo County. You all have to join in that effort because it is a very noble cause. Samburu, Narok, West Pokot, Wajir, Turkana and Tana River are places that everybody knows. There was a time when I was in Hola, Tana River, when it had flooded and I saw the condition of the people in that place. They were living on the road in makeshift paper houses yet somebody is here in Nairobi making noise and telling us about building affordable housing. The houses that Sen. Olekina is building for the Ilchamus people is more valuable to that community than the highrise buildings that we are doing here. With the highrise buildings, people are making money from tender and supply of materials, then they come and tell us they are doing affordable housing. The conditions in which our people find themselves and a leadership that appears to be blind to what the people really desire and deserve breaks my heart. I want us to revisit the original spirit of this Constitution, which was to raise the standards of these services to the level that we all enjoy or the majority of us enjoy The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "having water, roads, health services and electricity. Until every Kenyan is on the grid, please, do not tell us you are marginalised. Do not talk to us about marginalisation when you can at least access a health centre even if it does not have all the drugs. Some of you shower twice in a day yet there are Kenyans who have no access to drinking water. I am being told by the leader of the Maasai that some communities use cow urine to shower yet there are people here who soak themselves in bathtubs twice a day. It is very unfair. This is a situation that we must correct. With those many remarks, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support."
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